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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My two favorite consoles. I miss them dearly.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

What about GameCube? Flip top with the same 2 buttons

[–] [email protected] 82 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait till you see smart phones

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, you can't leave us hanging! Tell us their dirty secret!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ever notice how most of them look like a rectangle and have glass on the front?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

The PSX design was still similar for the Nintendo Prototypes as well. Was just the design style at the time for cheaper optical drive housing. GameCube all also had a flip-top lid for the basic commercial release.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You need a CD flap, and that's the biggest visible feature of the console, so best to make it the centrepiece, and design around it. And CDs are circular so yeah, let's follow that in the design.

You need two buttons, one for power and one for open. Symmetry is always appealing, so make them symmetrical and balanced on both sides.

Very much an example of "form follows function"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

This post made me realize just how few consoles had a CD flap. Is it just the Playstation, Dreamcast, Saturn, and Gamecube? Kind of weird how that was the default for CD players pretty much forever, but not many consoles went with that. PS2, Xbox, and everything after those had some kind of tray or slot. Maybe it was because they could visually stand apart from their competitors more that way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

The original Xbox had a tray because it was basically a PC, and had a standard IDE CD-ROM with some minor changes. They weren't standing apart, they were following the new standard of the time, PCs, and it was probably more to do with cost savings by using common parts. They also had a standard IDE HDD. Even their weird proprietary controller port they used on the original Xbox is just USB! Its the same wires, they just screwed up the pinout. you can replace one of those weird controller ports with a normal female USB and then plug all sorts of USB devices into the Xbox and they just work.

I only single out the Xbox because I've taken them apart, I imagine the PS2 is similar. At least PS2 didn't intentionally mess up their USB ports.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

For some perspective, CD trays, like the PS2 and Xbox had, that retracted mechanically were viewed as sleek and futuristic, and that's why slot loaders like the Wii and PS3 gained traction too.

It was an aesthetic choice, like the move from green LEDs to blue, though that has historic significant as blue LEDs are a relatively recent invention as the were incredibly difficult to figure out, so blue LEDs were seen as futuristic and opulent and used in everything consumer electronics for a while.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Cost. I think all of the 5th generation were top loaders. On the cd audio side nice stackable separates were tray or slot. Cheap stand-alones were top.

6th was a split but then I think the perception of slot or tray loading being more prestigious moved everyone to slot/tray.

Plus I think top loaders might have been less secure. I certainly remember a number of physical mods or swap techniques that defeated top loader security very easily.

Same thing happened with videos as well. Started with manual top loaders and then moved to slot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The PS2 slim has a CD flap, that might be the last console to have one

There's also whatever is going on with the PS3 super slim but I think that is in a category of its own

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Oh, and there's the Wii mini too. Can't think of any newer system with a DVD flap.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s almost like they were designed around something round… I call it the data-wheel!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How many of these data wheels will the machine be able to use?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Vast libraries of such disks once existed but we are unsure of what happened to them… but our scientists have identified a solid layer of polycarbonate about 50 feet down from the planets surface that may extend for miles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

As many as you have, but only one at a time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I did not, but now that you mention it...

The CONTROLLERS though...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It’s actually pretty cool to see an original Xbox controller next to a Dreamcast controller. They are incredibly similar. Both even had double card slots in the front

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Sega worked with Microsoft a bit on the Dreamcast and tried to get Microsoft to offer backwards compatibility for the Dreamcast on the Xbox. It kind of makes you wonder if Microsoft copied Sega’s controller.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Then look at the Saturn 3D pad and the Dempa XE-1 AP to see the full lineage.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It was the style at the time! Lots of CD players had flip up tops, as did the Sega Saturn. I assume it was because the slide out tray mechanism was more expensive and also more fragile.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Also causes the anxiety of scratching disks while using it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickle. And in those days nickles had pictures of bumble bees on them! "Give me 5 bees for a quarter" you'd say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

which was the style at the time

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 5 months ago (3 children)

For a real trip check out this Japanese laptop:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

that circular trackpad...!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

I love this tech aesthetic. 90s Japanese tech is just fun to look at.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 months ago

A friend of mine had one of those. It was super sleek to look at, but the flip top doubling as a wrist rest turned it into a CD grinder after a few years.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago

Seems like efficient design. Cords on the back, disc tray on the top with a couple buttons. Really the Gamecube is basically the same thing.