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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I just want replaceable batteries on my phones again. The last two Samsung phones I owned ended up with swollen batteries, requiring sending them back to Samsung for repairs. I really miss the days of just being able to pop the back off and buying a replacement battery.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Only fashion victims thought that.

Companies happily obliged them, bumping the price of phones that break much more easily.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I certainly would prefer a plastic backing than a glass one. Why the fuck does every phone have to be encased entirely in glass? It breaks and it's slippery as fuck, making it more prone to slip out of your hand and break. It's so ubiquitous and universally fucking stupid that I am convinced it's purposely designed so you will drop and break it so you have to pay to fix or replace it.

Every heavy duty aftermarket phone case is mostly plastic and rubberized silicone. Because that shit is 1000 times more durable and shock resistant than glass. Glass's great only for being scratch resistant. There's no reason that every phone couldn't have an otter box-like outer shell built in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

It is actually better for durability if the outer shell is removable as well. Eg, having a durable phone case on a midrange phone is better than a rugged phone. Simply being as you can easily swap the case

I'm going off of hearsay here from a video I saw years ago, but it was comparing a decently durable android in a rugged case with a purpose built rugged android phone. Both sustained similar damage but at least the one with the case could be fixed by a case swap. Other one would need a full on repair.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

I find the cheap phones are often the "premium" ones.

Those are the ones with plastic backs, headphone jacks, multiple SIMs, smaller size, lighter weight, good physical fingerprint readers, etc.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

It's time to stop deciding what other people should like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If it's ones use a d out plastic, I'll stick with glass and metal. I know someone is about to say they still cause CO2 and they do, but these materials can at least be easily recycled. This means when the rest of the chain becomes green (for lack of a better phrase) then so will this part.

If however it's using fully reusable and fully recyclable (not just incinerator "recycling") then sure, absolutely no issue. Fully behind it. I'm willing to bet, however, all of the money in my pocket that that's not the case here though sadly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think gorilla glass is recyclable however you could use recycled plastics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If not now, soon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66359047

As for recycled plastics, I mean, yes? That's kind of the goal. Fully recyclable devices is my desire, regardless of material. Right now, plastic isn't for the vast, vast majority.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So, over the course of the lifetime of your phone, you'll have bought and disposed of a couple of 1000x the amount of plastic. This is a really weird take, man.

The lifetime of a plastic phone will likely be longer too, because metal and glass are a shit combination. Plastic phones make repairs easier too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

How is it weird? It's not just you and me, it's billions of people world wide.

Also, don't try to claim you know me or how much plastic I use. I work very hard to not use any unless absolutely necessary, this is one such time.

Honestly, Lemmy has the weirdest takes at times. Aiming for better is not a bad thing to want, I thought given the balance of people here that being less wasteful would be a plus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I don't know you, you're right. But there's just so many things you can't buy without plastic wrappers. The one phone (which usually lasts way longer with plastic covers, plus it's easier to repair. You kinda ignored that argument) is not putting a dent in plastic consumption. Plastic phones is literally aiming for better. "Premium feel" phones are anti-consumer and will generate plastic garbage either way, because you have to slap a cover on it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've been saying this for years. Use nice textured recycled plastic. The amount of cool textured and nice feeling materials out there is insane.

Gimme a plastic screen too. If someone is concerned about scratches they can add a glass protector. Those people already do anyway. There are even plastics that could be used that would resist scratches incredibly well.

Then my whole phone is flexible and nearly unbreakable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bro just make it yourself you probably have enough plastic in your body for it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I'd give my left nut for a premium plastic phone...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Lumia 800 was the most premium feeling phone I’ve ever had. It also felt indestructible.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Phone material stopped mattering the moment camera bumps became a thing. Now, nearly everyone slaps a case to balance out the bump.

That said, I miss my completely mirrored-back Sony Xperia Z5 Premium.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I miss phones without camera bumps :(

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (5 children)

"Glass is glass, and glass breaks" I want a metal back phone. I don't care about wireless charging.

  • 8GB ram
  • 250 GB memory
  • ">6000 mah" battery. Thickness doesn't matter.
  • Fast charging
  • 120hz display

Can anyone suggest me an Android that has all these?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I went with the lenovo/motorola thinkphone. Kind of an oddball choice, but it has a kevlar back instead of glass, and has most of your points.

The battery is 'only' 5000mah, but i get multiple days of use per charge.

There were some pretty good sales on it because it didn't sell as well as they had hoped.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Metal back is bound to get dented and scratched. Plastic is the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I may have found a phone for you. It's called the unihertz tank 2

  • 12gb ram
  • 256GB memory (expandable)
  • 15500 mah battery
  • 60W charging
  • 120hz display

https://www.unihertz.com/products/tank-2

Comes with a few other really interesting features you don't see on any other phone (like a goddamn laser projector?), though i think the processor is a little underpowered.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

How's unihertz track record with providing updates? This is an important factor to avoid artificial obsolescence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean by track? Unihertz is a small Chinese manufacturer - it makes no guarantees around support and barely delivers any updates to its devices, as is the norm within much of the non-Google, non-Samsung Android market. It's really only within the last couple of years that the industry has actually made a bit of progress in this area.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Track record.

This is a norm to be avoided. A phone without updates (at least security updates) should be avoided at all costs considering the potential consequences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I was being a dick and asking a rhetorical question there, because I thought it would be pretty obvious that the support for a small Chinese manufacturer would be abysmal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

That is one clumsy hiker.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

That's kind of insane. From the name I think it's safe to assume they're angling for some military contracts.

From this comparison, I would guess they chose the G99 to cut costs, as the 1300 was announced two months earlier and beats or matches the G99 in every category, including battery life (which is the only thing it seems to be good at).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I did a search on GSM Arena and if you lower the battery capacity to 5000 then there's a single result. If you change some of the other spec requirements there's some other stuff available but nothing that matches what you want one-to-one.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

I want a metal back phone

Steve Jobs did too, they still needed a plastic window for some antennae on the OG iPhone, then went to full plastic. It has become worse now, the back isn't just for wireless charging. It is also for NFC, UWB, and often cellular/gps/wifi/bluetooth may share antenna connections through the back.

Right there with you though. NFC could probably be packed in a band at the top of a phone. UWB seems of dubious value thus far.

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