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the company says that Recall will be opt-in by default, so users will need to decide to turn it on

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Anyone who trusts Microsoft for anything anymore will get what they deserve.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Oh, yeah, thanks for these researchers to have provided insightful feedback such as "don't record private activity", "don't store data in a plaintext user-accessible sqlite database", and "don't do that automatically to everyone elligible, what are you thinking no stop". No way anyone could ever figure these out beforehand. Microsoft was totally stumped when these showed up and most certainly is very honest when they say they're reworking it now, and not at all abusing the PR outrage to slip us something as bad in the meantime.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bullshit.

This whole endeavour is looking like a careful plan to implement a smaller, slightly less horrible idea in Win11, and then creep forward from there.

Remember the model to move the goal line, folks:

  • Overreach
  • Capitulate publicly and fall back to your true target
  • Repeat

Best of all, these large steps can be supplemented by nudging things forward with 'adjusttments.'

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

They'll probably come to the "logical conclusion" that storing the data locally on the machine poses "too much risk" and just move the storage to their servers "for your safety"...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Oh boy, sunk cost fallacy time! They'll now waste millions of dollars to salvage this popularly unwanted nightmare in an effort to make it juuust acceptable to shove it down everyone's throats.

Either that or they'll spend all that money and then pinky-promise that they've made it acceptable, only for all their work to be immediately overcome by bad actors (criminals, corporations, governments, law enforcement, is there even a difference) and be the exact same nightmare anyway.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why would anyone opt in to this? What is the point of it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

So that you can find that one porn video you watched six months ago that really got you off but you don't remember how you found it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

It's like an automated tipofmytongue but for everything you do on your computer.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago (4 children)

they needed researchers to tell them that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's just what we call people spending some time to figure something out. Security research is basically just trying to learn the technology and then trying to break it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it did not take me long to figure out that maybe spyware that takes screenshots of what you're doing is a bad idea

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Agreed but someone actually tried it - did the research.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Internally people probably talked about how there were huge issues. Others probably said those issues are over stated and it's no big deal. They decided to release it and the press says there are issues. Then, the company decides there are issues. That simple.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Having been the guy in an org shouting not to do something only for it to come back to us this way, the finger-pointing that begins is nuts. Often the people who tried to stop the "feature" from rolling out are the first to get blamed for it being shit.

Classic CYA, make sure everything you said is in writing somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I have as well. I won't pretend I'm always right - I've thought some ideas that worked out incredibly were horrible. Also had the situation you describe happen. It's okay when you're working with reasonable people. Show them the slide deck, the email, the analysis, whatever... "Look you didn't approve this". "Here is an alternative ". That can work.

Just telling folks "I told you so" isn't usually a great form of communication.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

It's PR bullshit to give an excuse for backtracking basically

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Well . . . the smart people they ignored when CoPilot was first proposed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Best Solution is to not use Microsoft, i just setup an old Laptop with Linux Mint to see if it can work for my requirements.

If all goes well ill just use that for my main pc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Good luck! If you need any help typically there's a stackoverflow somewhere out there with the answer to your problem and if not, linux communities are typically decent about helping these days. Welcome to the club!

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