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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So You turn into a double pirate?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Can't copyright methods of theft I guess

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

I mean, same, but for different reasons than most of the people in this thread. Obviously if someone is stealing out of necessity, that's understandable - but regardless of motive, I'm not going to speak up about theft in any case except maybe a mom-and-pop store where I both personally know and like the owners, because loss from theft is something that stores necessarily need to address and plan for in their own business model.

I'm not the store's fucking employee, and if the store is expecting customers to pull double duty as security guards or lookouts, they're fucking deluded. That's not going to fix what is essentially a problem with the safeguards in place - if the ship is leaking, asking the passengers to bail water is a temporary and unreliable solution. This is a business transaction; I'm here to get and pay for the shit I need, not watch over the shit I don't for the sake of your bottom line. Sort your own shit; you've got an entire firm's worth of resources to figure it out. I'm just trying to get by without pulling labor for every fucking firm I go to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Very Ethical Life Protip: If the baby formula is locked up, the cabinets used by most retailers use a universal lock and you can buy your own key pretty cheap.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you're really feeling based.. you can help them out too. I'm not saying you are required or should feel obligated.. but hey, helping people eat is a pretty decent thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It is indeed. Help them to steal the floorboards. It's the right thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The only time I've ever cared about someone shoplifting was when they stole from the store i was working at and, this is the important part here, tried to act like i was too stupid to get they were stealing. My dude, i don't care if you are stealing, just walk out, i couldn't stop you even if i cared, but please skip the stupid excuse making.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

What? You aren't allowed to stop a thieve? Its always interesting how laws are different in different countries. In Germany everyone is allowed to "temporarily arrest" a criminal, if he caughts him whole commuting a crime. This only gives you the right to stop a criminal u til police arrives.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

I fucking hate this take. It's so middle school edgy it cuts my cringe receptors into pieces.

I get what you guys are trying to say but most people aren't stealing to feed their babies or provide them with diapers. Most of the people are stealing so they can sell it on the streets. Where WIC and welfare can't help pay for it.

I swear, have any of you been poor ever?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mentioned this the last time there was a "hur dur stealing is fine" thread, but I once watched two guys steal hundreds of pounds (currency, not weight) of meat from a supermarket. They obviously did this to sell it on, but many of the comments here were saying not to side with shareholders or that the store could handle the losses no problem.

Tell someone that is actually struggling about shoplifting, and many of them will say there are two minds to this: you're either desperate or stupid. It's clear as day when someone is desperate (i.e. stealing formula - frankly if they got caught I'd pay for it for them and would happily give them all of my newborn stuff that I no longer use for free), but it's also really fucking obvious when someone is doing it to be a cunt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I'll be honest, if it's a chain i'm really not gonna feel any sympathy even if the thief is being a cunt.

The stores violated the social contract first

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I don't care why they steal. Let them do it. They aren't robbing a mom and pa shop, because they don't exist anymore. Stealing from capitalists isn't a crime. It's not even stealing, it's taking back what they stole. It's Your duty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Who sells diapers on the streets? I don't know where You live, but I'm not seeing many diaper dealers on the streets in my town.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I have been poor, yes! Have you ever been outside? Do you think there are diaper black markets? Do you think everyone stealing to make ends meet qualifies for WIC in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

They use baby formula to cut coke and heroin lol

Have you ever had some bunk coke that was stepped on too much?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You never wondered about that person at the flea market selling Tide and baby formula?

There absolutely is a "black market".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Wait until they find out about people selling their food stamps 🤣

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hey, you guys think maybe the guy with the racist username isn't an honest actor?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You opinion is irrelevant, I know what makes you cheer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I grew up below the dirt poor, like oodles and noodles were a treat poor, with no adult supervision for a good portion of my childhood. My mom was on basically every government program that existed, that didn't mean I got anything out of it. The only reason I survived was by people looking the other way as I fed myself.

As I got older I had no life skills whatsoever and couldn't hold down a job, friends, or any sort of meaningful relationship. So again, dirt poor, a little better off than I was before because there were a few ways to make money. But still I only ever got food at a store, and probably would have starved if too many people said something, or had to do even worse stuff than I was to feed myself.

Hell even when I got myself together a bit and held down a shitty job for a while I still couldn't afford to feed myself after the bills hit, it was even worse when I started making just enough to get kicked off state insurance and stamps.

There are a lot of people out here just trying to survive, they shouldn't have to steal to eat but they do and in my eyes that's a human right.

Side note: food stamps are a fucking joke. What they're giving to a family of 4 wouldn't feed a single person, from my experience at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I sympathize with this but your situation is very anecdotal and on the extreme end of the poor spectrum. Most of Americans in need of government assistance largely benefit from it.

The problem with the post is that it's a point of view by way of ignorance. No one steals carts full of baby formula and diapers (mostly formula) to give away a la robin hood style. They do it to sell on the streets or to cut drugs with it. That's just the facts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Those people stealing carts to sell them on the street are a god send.

We had a guy in my old neighborhood who would come around once a week with various necessities that most people couldn't afford otherwise. Sure he made decent money, but babies got fed, pantries got replenished, feminine products were given out if you bought stuff from him regularly.

That might seem grimey to you, but that's fine.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Who cares? The point is, it's NOT YOUR CONCERN.

No matter what to the rhetoric says, it will never ever impact you in any way.

Let people be. The world is a fucking disaster. Make it better by treating people respectfully and working to dismantle the horrible system that got us here.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

The people who are buying it off the street can't afford it full price. So what is your point exactly?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

Meh.

Even if 90% of theft is greed and meant to be resold for profit, I'll still ignore it for the 10% that are stealing out of extreme desperate necessity.

We live in a country that has 100 billionaires that are undeserved and unearned, arguably. You can become a Millionaire solely by making YouTube videos stuffing your face full of fast food and gaining 500lbs, as a freakshow that gets lots of likes/subscribes. All while public school teachers are on food stamps and infrastructure around the country is degrading and not being improved, etc., etc.

The system we have is trash. Obviously I don't support stealing from the little guy, but theft from large corporations I'll always support. Large corporations inherently steal from the poor, directly and indirectly. It's inherent to our capitalist system.

I support the sentiment of the meme.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I respect that. To me this is just a meme, and honestly I don't think anything I say should be taken seriously. Which is also true for this comment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Of course they are. I'm not claiming they aren't. I just respect their opinion. Other than that though, I believe society in general should be pro-people-feeding-themselves.

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