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Following the other thread (550 upvotes and 366 comments at the moment: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417), one of the complaints that people had what that some communities only exist on lemmy.ml and don't have alternatives on other instances.

Let's discuss this and see if we can organize together.

I suggest to have one topic per comment so that is is easier to discuss.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

[email protected] and [email protected]

Mods: @[email protected] and @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]

Could not find any current alternatives.

Any instance recommendations? Maybe mander.xyz? (@[email protected])

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

[email protected], currently moderated by @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected].

Could not find any current alternatives.

Any instance recommendations? Maybe programming.dev? Or a maker/craft-oriented instance?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

[email protected] and [email protected]

The respective moderators (@[email protected], @[email protected]) have been AWOL for 4 years.

Possible alternative:

Any instance recommendations?

@[email protected], were you able to find any RSS news sources?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I've figured it out @[email protected] . The thing that was bugging me was where we should host the autonomous and self driving technology community and the whole time it was bloody obvious. @[email protected] can we host it on your instance?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

where we should host the autonomous and self driving technology community and the whole time it was bloody obvious. @[email protected] can we host it on your instance?

I asked the futurology admins about adding additional communities that fit the futurology theme, but they seem uninterested. I'm not sure why, as having what is essentially a single-community instance seems a bit strange to me, but it's ultimately their call.

@[email protected] and @[email protected], would you reconsider increasing the number of communities on your instance, provided they fit the futurology theme?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We are not against it, but it needs careful consideration due to limited server resources as well as limited user attention (we are a very small instance compared to others)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We're not sure how much additional traction we would drive to your server, but we don't expect too much. It would mostly just be me and @[email protected] posting news stories and videos (hosted on YouTube) about self-driving technology with the occasional news story and video about robot chefs. So very much in line with Futurology.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'll have a chat with the other mods and come back to you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We’ve decided to go ahead with this, fire over a DM and we’ll get the community set up

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Good news!

@[email protected] good luck with this!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I found a couple. I'm saddened that https://selfdrivenews.com doesn't have an RSS feed though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

[email protected]

Possible alternatives?

@[email protected] (prolific poster) and @[email protected] (mod)

Thoughts?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I think the problem is not so much that "communities don't exist", but that they are far less popular and active than the lemmy.ml ones, and when presented with a choice new users will typically choose the community that is more active and has the most subs. You can't simply solve that by creating another community on another instance. A concerted effort would be needed to get people to move and to get them to pick the alternative community over the lemmy.ml one. Raising awareness and defederation by bigger instances (like lemmy.world) would help immensely.

For me the big ones are [email protected] and [email protected] btw, which do exist elsewhere but the alternatives are stale.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Indeed, it is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I posted to [email protected] and [email protected] about [email protected]

Someone else and I cross posted all of the content from [email protected] to [email protected] this morning.

I went to Reddit and HN to get content to that community too.

Is it really that stale?

On the other hand, I don't think defederation is necessary nor useful. Build rather than break.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hey I applaud your effort, yesterday the top post was several days old and top day was empty on one of the subs, so this is already better.

I'm a bit skeptical if that will be enough though. Active discussion is the meat and the potatoes for me when I go to a tech community, and for that you need more subscribers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Subscribers come to active communities. Feel free to post there too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When presented with a choice, people usually pick the community that is the most active and already has the most subs.

But I am definitely giving it a shot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Right, but when one of the communities has a reputation for authoritarian admins and mods dedicated to spreading propaganda it's a bit different.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is it.

The games community in lemmy.world is a bunch of folks advertising their indie game or YouTube stream. Usually a few comments here and there.

The games community on lemmy.ml is a bunch of folks sharing gaming journalism. Pretty active.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I always thought the real gaming community was [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's a way better community! Thanks for the recommendation!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You're welcome!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Firefox

[email protected] - 16.8k subscribers

[email protected] - 3.58k subscribers

[email protected] - 1.06k subscribers

I can't quite decide whether to consolidate LW and Fedia for the community. LW has more subscribers, but Fedia is a little more active.

I'm also thinking of asking active users of [email protected] to post on LW instead.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Fedia.io would be nice. That would be a change and promote Mbin a bit

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