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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

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Say Their Names

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Sitting in it while a school shooter blasts some kids.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Bulldozing the whole school to make sure they get the shooter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

well we know texas hates birth control. now they can obliterate it with superior force

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Good morning, I hate America and wish for its total annihilation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

IUD?

Intra-Uterine Device??

How much of a threat is female birth control to these people??

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

insert joke about police officers and domestic violence here

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Slaps hood. "You can kill so many dogs with this baby"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Police don't but they often want a vehicle for SWAT related reasons, but SWAT trucks costs hundreds of thousands. Meanwhile MRAPs are "free".

Prosper, Texas is home to 40,000 people. In 2010 their population was under 10k. They have quadrupled in size and are near the DFW area, so it's not really a surprise they took the 1033 offer for an MRAP. That said most of these decom'd heaps of shit are loathesomely expensive. "High Cost of Free MRAPs" by Strongtowns. Most MRAPs being given out are first and second gen versions. And for those first gens, they got sent to the front lines of the GWOT and got beat to shit while newer ones were tested and approved. These old models they're "giving out for free" have tire drum parts never used on later versions, transmissions like that of an F650 with half the reliability, and are ticking time bombs of use. Most cities often estimate maintenance costs at $5k per year, until something actually breaks and they have to get a second MRAP to cannibalize to fix the first. (Hint - that's why you often see them picked up in pairs or more)

That's before the optics. Petaluma, California has one and the police chief has even said "yeah it kinda has some bad optics sending police around in a former war machine".

If your city is wanting to pick one up, it's because someone who has zero experience with them really likes the idea of a big scary diesel monster rolling up on drug houses, and hasn't actually considered that if they can't pony up thousands of tax dollars every 6 months to keep the moneymonster fed, the only place it's gonna drive is into a storage shed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Thank you for the extra information.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

“Storage shed, you say” - Local Sheriff

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Americans have free access to drones, better build a cope cage.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just get an Abrams M1 for fucks sake!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Cops are too stupid to drive a tank.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not only is it ridiculous and likely unnecessary, but also consider they'll need to budget maintenance costs for this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

They get to be abhorrently expensive. Newark NJ got 2 Vietnam era helicopters (one for parts only) and in 5 years spent 1.13 million just keeping it around to fly for 4 hours every other Friday/Saturday.

Decom stuff is a maintenance moneypit

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry. They'll take it out of the budget they don't use to pay for lawsuits.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

The budget formerly known as “the education budget.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

this is needed and justified to compensate for small brains and small penises

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Militarization of police.

Can't use military on U.S. soil against its citizens? Turn police into the military to be used against its citizens.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Also: does the US have less troops on the ground around the world than they usually do? Gotta find a new market for the military industrial complex.

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