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Amarok, KDE's legendary music player, is out with version 3.0.1.

https://blogs.kde.org/2024/06/02/amarok-3.0.1-released/

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Amarok has and will always have a place in my heart. Great music player.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

It's cool. But the music player landscape has changed so much, I just don't need library features and what not anymore. I find myself just queueing things in MPV using a terminal in a directory full of music, launching playlists and stuff. I've tried a ton of music players for Linux, from Amarok to Camus, and I find that it's all cruft and all you need is a media player and at best a file manager.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Did Librewolf borrow the logo from Amarok?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty happy with Cantata for now, but if it ever fails me, it's nice to know Amarok might be a decent alternative.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I've been using Clementine ever since Amarok shit the bed way back when. Actually there may have been a gap before Clementine was released because I remember trying a few other players that I didn't like so much.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Is this any good for library management and syncing to portable music players?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

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Trying it out today, I had a flashback that reminded why I loved this player so much: when I pressed the "pause" button, instead of immediately cutting off, the track gradually faded into silence.

It was not the smorgasbord of features, but the small things like this that set Amarok head and shoulders above all other players. Can't wait to see it brought up to speed again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Man Amarok was amazing back in the day, but that was many days ago.

It still might be good, and kudos for the effort, but Clementine has already surpassed Amarok. It would be nice to the effort going to either Continue clementine development, or make Strawberry as feature complete as Clementine and go on from there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I tried Clementine for a while, but I didn't like how careless the developers were with privacy and security. For example, quietly downloading and executing a Spotify blob (even when I don't use Spotify), and sending pings to a geolocation service without my permission.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is interesting. Now I am going to have to run Wireshark and see if anything is going on with mine.

Shame if so, it is the most feature rich music player.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You might also check to see if it has already downloaded any .so files. (These are executable code, like Windows DLLs.) I found one in $HOME/.config/Clementine/spotifyblob/ when I used it a few years ago, but recent versions may store them elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I looked and I do not see anything like that. Who packaged your version I wonder.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The blob wasn't packaged with the application. Clementine downloaded the blob after installation. It's possible that it doesn't do this automatically any more, or does it under different conditions. I have no reason to investigate further, since I no longer use it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I have the same home directory for 20+ years and have been running Clementine since it was released on Fedora. I have no blobs or .so files.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Cool. I guess I was wondering if the package maintainer had set a configuration to pull those in automatically, or if Clementine was designed to do that. But in any case, thanks for the reply.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

KDE has a lot of music players

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Amarok, Elisa and Juk. That's three, which is a lot, but it's not entirely uncommon for KDE to have three (or more) applications with a similar purpose.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're forgetting Clementine which was developed as a replacement for Amarok when it got all shitty.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I am not. Clementine is not developed as part of KDE.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

What is the difference to Elisa really?

I used Elisa and found it quite unusable for folder-structured music.

I only used folder structures as I found no say so sync .m3u playlists including the music files between Android and Linux. Finding a way here would be great.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I always understood it was a powerful audio player but, I could never figure it out. Rhythmbox just works and gets out of the way 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah but Rhythmbox is GNOME and Amarok is KDE :)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah those glossy buttons etc don't fit in with the flat breeze theme at all. Looks like an unholy child of windows Vista and KDE 5

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not the theme, it's that it has 5 panels visible with vague hirerarchy. Music players shouldn't look like IDEs

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

afaik they're all dock widgets, meaning they can all be hidden, moved and resized at will. you can even split them off into their own windows if you want

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And there was already a style change 😅

I'd really like to know where Kde is heading style wise (I'm a regular donor)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

One of my biggest gripes about Linux in general is that none of the DEs can settle on a UI kit. I get WHY, but ffs, this is a major set back for various apps.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Amarok uses Qt, just like every other KDE project. Likewise, I don't think GNOME has any project not using GTK.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

It's stuck on Qt5 while KDE is on Qt6

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What, the grey bars? Crappy is a rude way of putting it, but yes they looks pretty bad. I think that's probably an artifact from the Qt4 days. It looked fine with Oxygen. Rest looks fine to me. If you think it looks busy, well the screenshot has a lot of panels enabled, just to showcase the features. IIRC many of them are not shown by default and a user would only keep the ones they need, since the interface is customizable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m not trying to be “rude.” But the line height, weird font sizes, spacing between elements. Just everything about it screams function over form. There is a way to have both. Most software that adheres to modern design principles have overcome the “janky” UI

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

@tsonfeir @leopold I think they're more focused on fixing build errors and putting out a release for now, and leave UI updates for later. So we're stuck with the old look for this release.