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The Sanctimonious Centrists (i.imgur.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being a centrist doesn't mean that you have to compromise on everything or you are a conservative in disguise. In fact, I consider myself a centrist and I have very strong lines I won't cross.

In my case it means that you are not torn into extremes, and that you prefer a way that respects most people rights without sacrificing basic rights or certain ethic values.

And the image there is quite low effort. It's trying to convey a message that either you are pro civil rights, or you want to kill black people. I don't think there's even a middle ground there, or a fair comparison.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There isn’t a middle ground in a lot of discussions. It’s just that the correct and just course of action is intentionally hidden behind fear and prejudice. Have you ever wondered why nobody ever talks about policies as class interests (discuss who would benefit and why these policies are pushed) in mainstream media, as if it’s taboo?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H4D1wI6wGjU

So if you call yourself a centralist, then sorry to say, but you are either intentionally or unintentionally ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I'll add the video to my list of TODOs. But I must admit that this discussion seems to be very USA centric. Here in Spain at least, lots of politicians and media do talk about which classes are affected by each policy and why. The same used to happen when I lived in Argentina.

Of course there are a lot of places where there is no middle ground. But there are a lot of places where there is. Do we abolish private property? I don't think there's a middle ground there. Do we privatize the education system completely? Lots of middle ground.

It's as naive (and dangerous I might add) to think that there is no middle ground anywhere as to think there is a middle ground everywhere. Because again, both postures are extremes, and extremes are never good nor right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Because again, both postures are extremes, and extremes are never good nor right.

That’s an extreme position in itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to be an enlightened 'the truth is in the middle' centrist until I realized that the real world requires having actual ideals

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eventually you'll reach the point I did which is that ideals are great but are rarely ever realized, thus, compromise is essential.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or you'll reach a point at which you develop real principles, such as "don't compromise with fascists like the KKK"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Principled failure means dogshit. If half the country don't even know their side supports the KKK, having a fucking conversation is a lot more valuable than preaching to your base. A reminder Trump fucking won on racism and your principles meant nothing to the people who voted for him. The "No compromise, no discussion." left on Lemmy is fucking wild. You're barely a step removed from Anarchy and Civil War and it's a telling how fucking sheltered you all are for even suggesting it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

too many conversations, not enough action

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody gets from capitalism to socialism overnight without a lot of people dying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

More people die from starvation, homelessness, and avoidable diseases. These problems could be treated in an instant with a socialist system. The benefits outweigh any cost.