Vote these rats out.
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Please vote tactically. Let's put the Tories in third place or worse.
And you can do more. I live in a safe Labour seat and most of my friend's live just over the boundary in one of the safest Labour seats in the country (you'd have more luck seeing a fox than a Tory), so a friend is looking into helping the campaign in marginal Tory seats - there are a couple within a 30-60 minute drive.
Or just promote tactical voting resources on social media. They'll get shared on here, along with articles about it.
According to the FT's polling model, if the Tories' vote share falls to about 20%, the Lib Dems will beat them in terms of seats even with only about 9% of the vote. So, it wouldn't take much tactical voting for that to be a real possibility.
Even more hilariously, in that model, the Lib Dems would actually be fourth, behind Reform, in vote share.
Even more hilariously, in that model, the Lib Dems would actually be fourth, behind Reform, in vote share.
I wouldn't want to encourage the Gammon Party but it would be delicious gravy.
Seriosly that would be hilarious. And honestly looking at electoral calculus. Very doable if younger voters make an effort to agree and turn out.
Unfortunately it means voting lib dem in large numbers. As they are the only party predicted to gain seats close to the tories. Also they are where moderate tory voters are likely to go if scared of labours left leaning support.
Atm electoral calculus puts tories at a predicted 66 seats. Take some time to laugh at that one.
Lib dems at 59. So moving 4 or more safe tory seats to lib dem really would do this.
Looking at the electoral calculus predictive models. It would take an average of a 10 % swing in what they call Lib Dem medium strength seats.
Honestly this is very doable if younger anti tory voters turn out in much higher number then normal. And agree tory removal is more important under fptp. Then voting you actual desires for more left of centre options. Those options have low odds of gaining these seats anyway.
I live in a historically tory safe area. Where both boundary changes and polling. Make it a lib dem predicted win.
Dear Lord. Your punctuation. Is. Atrocious. .
Yeah shit happens when trying to type on a tablet. And visually impaired,
So honestly if you fail to understand ask.
Or just keep it to your self. No one needs your opinion is this situation.
Opinions are like arseholes. Nobody needs yours either.
I need my arsehole, though.
I mean it's not a lot of fun, but the alternatives are much worse.
I misread "tablet" as "toilet". 🤦♂️
Lol. Well ill assure you. This post was not edited their.
This post ;)
Unfortunately it means voting lib dem in large numbers.
The lack of enthusiasm for Labour plus the desire to get the Tories out should make it easier to hold your nose and put a cross on the page.
Come on guys. Sell how funny having the tories as not only out. But not even in opposition would be to your friends.
I could definitely see a Troll the Tories spin on tactical voting going viral.
What’s wrong with voting Lib Dem?
Because they are feckless liars who reneged onall their promises the first time they tasted any power. They are also just a useless centrist party that more or less supports everything the Tories stand for while wanting to appear "nice" about it.
They aren't a proper left wing party (neither are Labour these days but you take what you can get) but I prefer them to the Tories because they've always been willing to call Brexit the shitpile that it is. If my seat could go Tory or Lib Dem, I'd vote Lib Dem every day and twice on Thursdays.
If my seat could go Tory or Lib Dem, I’d vote Lib Dem every day and twice on Thursdays.
I nominate you for best written sentence on the Internet today.
A lot of people haven't forgiven them for the Coalition - a vote for them back then turned out to be a vote for the Tories.
Students in particular got fucked due to the tuition fee pledge roll back. I can see the conservatives using that as a wedge against the lib dem student vote in those seats.
The great British public utter failing to understand coalition politics - if you want the Lib Dem’s to have to make less compromises the key is to vote in more Lib Dems… not less. Of course a government that is mostly Conservative is going to do mostly Conservative things. But it also did some Lib Dem things, which is better than no Lib Dem things! The idea that ‘Vote Conservative and be fucked’ is more compelling than ‘Vote Lib Dem and be a bit less fucked’ goes a long way to explaining the mess this country is in.
Lib Dems could have formed a coalition government with labour instead of forced a Tory minority government and a quicker return to the polls. Clegg chose power over his party.
I agree that the coalition was probably better than a full conservative government, they both had to get rid of their stupid/extreme policies.
Still stuck me with 10s of thousands more student loan though.... I'm over that now... Mostly.
The debt sucks. A progressive graduate tax would probably have been better - then you couldn’t just avoid it by having rich parents, or avoid the interest by paying it off quick by going into banking. But, you know, tax…
I'm all for figuratively wiping out the Tories, but I'll be extremely surprised if they end up with less than 100 seats.
Honestly so would I. Shy tories have always been a thing.
But as I say. 10 % swing from current polling in what electoral calculus calls lib medium support seats. There are 53 of these. So 53 seats currently predicted to go tory. That a high turn out of young motivated voters could change the predictions on.
Far from impossible. It just take a normally under represented voting block to agree. Tories need a undeniable message.
If you have other social networks, go ahead and inspire your circle. Meme it. Inspire your friends to do the same.
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Honestly, if they'd funnelled all the money into labour seats we could still make the accusation of vote buying.
At this point, the only thing people trust about the Tories is their corruption.
Very much so. Its not like bribery was unexpected from the party. I honestly predicted something more direct. Like a few billion cost of living payment within the first 100 days.
Corruption is def what gained the tories low pole numbers.
But honestly their announcements leading up to and during the election. All are bad but these stand out.
Trying to start a culture war with disabled people.
National service.
Pension promises.
They are so clearly aimed at small groups of traditional tory voters. Rather then mass appeal.
It really is hard to see them as anything but desperate and out of touch.
I've been living under a rock the last year or so as everything in the news is doom and gloom with everything getting worse. Consequently, I'm out of the loop with regard to the disabled culture war.
Are you referring to their usual stance on disabled people, or have they done something specifically heinous in the last few weeks?
Sunak started an attackkmon the disabled and the benifits system a few days before announcing the system.
Basically trying to claim they are all scammers.
Talking about ending cash support for some corperatikn run voucher and catalog system. And much more actual bull claims blaming the disabled for being g a burden on the welfare system. Forgetting most actually work already.
They are so clearly aimed at small groups of traditional tory voters. Rather then mass appeal.
On Any Questions one of the panellists said this was brace-position campaigning - trying to get their base out to shore up support in their heartland and minimise losses.
Desperate, totally agree.
They're bailing water from a sinking ship and firmly believe that this is the only way to prevent a wipeout, they're so scared of reform.
Hilarious to watch. They're in touch with such a narrow slice of the country.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The Tory general election campaign hit more trouble on Saturday as Rishi Sunak faced accusations of using levelling up funds to win votes and Labour opened its biggest poll lead since the disastrous premiership of Liz Truss.
As Sunak tried to fire up his party’s campaign before the first crucial TV debate with Keir Starmer on Tuesday, it emerged that more than half of the 30 towns each promised £20m of regeneration funding on Saturday were in constituencies won by Tory MPs at the last election.
Henri Murison, chief executive of the Northern Powerhouse Partnership, an independent body representing business and civic leaders in the north of England, criticised the regeneration announcement.
Justin Madders, who retained the seat of Ellesmere Port and Neston in the north-west of England for Labour in 2019, said “given their monumental failure to deliver on levelling up over the last four years, why would anyone believe this is going to make a difference now?”
Lib Dem Treasury spokesman Sarah Olney said: “It will take more than this desperate attempt at pork barrel politics to win over voters after years of failure on the NHS and cost of living.”
Labour renewed the row between the two main parties over tax, saying that chancellor Jeremy Hunt must rule out increasing VAT on things including food and children’s clothes, after he seemed to leave the door open to raising it.
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