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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I mean, are they wrong?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I don't remember any scientists raping children then being shielded by the scientific community

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

What have ~~The Romans~~ scientists ever done for us?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

SANTA IS REAL!!! LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING YOU'RE SAYING!!! LALALALA!!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

You know what, they're right. All this time I've spent praising our study of the universe, development of medicine and vaccines, even harnessing energy and sending information around the planet and I just feel duped.

Science is a liar sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Religion: a bunch of deep shits trying to not know something by making up false truths.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

If you want to believe that illness is caused by demons and witchcraft, fine, knock yourself out. But that's not how the real world works. If you're going to make extraordinary claims about reality, then you have to provide extraordinary proof. "I believe" isn't going to cut it in the reality-based community.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Are any scientists out there with the active mission of "disprove god"? I highly doubt that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Twas the original purpose of natural philosophers to find proof of God's existence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the point is that science by existing works to disprove the existence of God. For example, Darwin was not trying to disprove the existence of God when he wrote about evolution, but by doing so he supported the case that god does not exist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

tbf i personally believe the adam and eve story is a metaphor

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The entire first testament is a metaphor. It blows my mind that anyone can think otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i was referring to the adam and eve story from the quran (i am muslim), but i will give it a read :}

honestly, a lot of the stories that appear to 'not make sense' make much more if you consider the metaphor aspect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Oh gotchya! Yea each major religion has the same underlying themes at the end of the day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You do not need to take away their faith for your own personal gain.

When faith is for your own gain? Science doesn’t get $ if people don’t believe in Jesus. Faiths certainly get more $ if people don’t believe in science.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Oh I don't know. Healthy people, kept healthy by science, live longer, earn more, tithe more; some even get to reverse tithe (where they keep 10% and give the rest away).

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Religion is against science. It teaches that you must have faith unsupported by evidence, which is incompatible with progress and is just an excuse for making up rules in the name of an unseen authority.

Edit: Religion is also vile: whenever they are winning, they try to squash science and its methods. Whenever they are losing, they play the martyr.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Idk. My dad has always liked going to church. My family is catholic, I don't really engage in any of it anymore. But my dad has always been a proponent of science. His opinion is that religion and science can inform each other.

He believes in evolution. He knows vaccines work. And he certainly is not a trumper. He also likes to tell the story of how the big bang was initially hypothesized by a catholic priest.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

That priest, Lemaitre, was opposed to mixing science and religion and said that there was no contraddiction between his theory and what the bible says about the origin of the universe. This is a 1984-level cognitive dissonance event imo, and shows that mixing something ever growing like science with something immutable like religious establishment is very difficult especially in one direction.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is a brilliant example of anecdotal example, which has no statistical value. I'm sure your dad is a great person.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's a single example that disproves the hypothesis "science and religion must always oppose". Only one example is needed, in the same way that the Riemann hypothesis only needs a single zero off the critical line to prove it's false.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lol, no. I'm talking of a general trend of the religious establishment against innovation and understanding.

Edit: Also i never said "science and religion must always oppose". I said religion is against science. The hate is mostly unidirectional as science has mostly just indifference towards religion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

i mean, the main issue is that theologues base their beliefs on the belief that some old texts hold universal truths

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Created and shared on devices created by science contribution....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

To Finnish college.

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