The MAGATs should follow Dougan to shithole Muscoviteville. If the POS returns to the USA, the USMC should arrest him and throw his ass into Ft. Leavenworth.
THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
I'm sure he fits right in.
The very definition of Useful Idiot.
Not even close. A useful idiot is tricked into doing something they did not intend to do.
This guy is all in with Russia.
Incorrect. A useful idiot is someone who doesn't understand the impact/outcome of their actions. A foreign agent doesn't need to turn/trick/recruit an actor because the idiot is already doing the subversive work for nothing. A small amount of money or encouragement goes a long way with idiots. An example ...does anyone else remember the "Hillary is 44" movement after she lost the nomination to Obama?
He looks like a thumb. Or a big toe.
Maybe he and Snowden can brainstorm ideas on how best to pretend to have strong moral convictions backing your actions while simultaneously being a mouthpiece for Putin. It can't be easy to pretend to be a person willing to risk it all, get to Russia, and suddenly fall in line.
Oh look, it's the propaganda guy!
Russia bad, surveillance bad, this has been your daily propaganda leaflet ~~
Oh shit, what if I agree?
Snowden fled to Russia because he’s wanted for espionage in the United States. He doesn’t have many choices on places he can go. It’s either Russia, or China.
Snowden's actions were based on a positive ethical foundation and is accused of putting people in danger, although I don't remember those accusations being substantiated.
This guy fled because he was actively and intentionally harming people for malicious purposes. He continues to be malicious.
They are not comparable.
Snowden's actions were based on a positive ethical foundation and is accused of putting people in danger, although I don't remember those accusations being substantiated.
I was in Afghanistan when he leaked everything and nothing changed for us
Pick one:
a) Snowden haphazardly leaked our documents because he can't abide mass surveillance. He had to do it and risk everything because of his moral convictions.
b) Snowden repeats Putin's propaganda because his safety is more important than doing the right thing. He can abide things like the invasion of Ukraine or interference in American politics in favor of practical concerns.
(You know it's possible for Snowden to have done something good while also being a shithead, right? I'm saying these shitheads can keep each other company.)
They are both true, and if you look at a calendar you will see that there was significant amount of time and changing circumstances between 1 and 2.
So just to be clear, nobody is denying Snowden is a Kremlin mouthpiece. It's just a faux pas to imply Snowden is not a virtuous person? Or is it mean to group Snowden, a Russian stooge, with other Russian stooges, because of his past?
It is unreasonable to dismiss his ethically based release of information because of more recent events. He ended up with Russia because other countries were not willing to grant asylum, and even though he is a stooge now because of that outcome it does not mean he was always a shithead.
He's not just living in Russia, he's actively working directly for the Russian disinformation machine.