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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

As a fellow jenkins miner. I know this red (x) all too well.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

development build of call of duty black ops

[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

DevOps is bad because for some reason we've decided to invent new programming languages that you can't debug locally and so you have to keep pushing commits to the pipeline server. It's bullshit.

"Why do you write all your pipelines as shell scripts and then wrap them in yaml at the very end"?

Because then I can run them locally quickly and test individual components of them instead of "edit, commit, push, wait 10 minutes, read error message, repeat".

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

FWIW, gitlab-runner exec and earthly exist for running tests locally, with others things like nektos/act for GHA as a 3rd party solution. I’ll never get used to yaml, though, all my pipelines are mostly shell scripts. Using a markup language as a programming language was definitely one of the decisions of all time.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Gitlab-runner exec and act are great tools, but this goes out of the window as soon as the cloud hosting service is a little less intelligent (looking at you, azure DevOps, who removed the hack that let pipeline run locally in 2019)

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

That’s why earthly exists. Now you can run your pipeline on a container with a “familiar syntax” inside another container with a “familiar syntax” inside of a “reproducible, easy-to-use” VM provisioned on top of probably KVM, as Torvalds intended

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

Come on! You need those red crosses to know it fails as it should. Thats what I would say they are there for :-)

[-] [email protected] 91 points 4 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 28 points 4 weeks ago

Local tests are less shameful. Imagine if you had a Red X online for every compiler or syntax error whilst developing.

So it is.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago

This is what it looks like when I'm working on Jenkin files.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

If the build doesn't fit, you must...rerun the test suite locally

[-] [email protected] 36 points 4 weeks ago

You just need to learn from big automakers and use Volkswagen!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Sir, you just made my day thank you!

[-] [email protected] 33 points 4 weeks ago

How are you bad?

You got a green verification checkmark on the same day! That's a win!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

My build environment has 3 jillion unneeded builds going. I am lucky to get 2 build failures in a single day.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago

And only one of those runs has complete logs containing the actual error causing the failure.

[-] [email protected] 214 points 4 weeks ago

See your problem is you're editing the code until it passes the tests. It's way easier if you edit the tests until it passes the code.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

If true == true pass!

[-] [email protected] 35 points 4 weeks ago

Can't tell if you are joking. I know a lot of junior developers who think this is a legitimate solution.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

I just replace all my tests with noop codes. Quick, easy, passes.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 4 weeks ago

Unless you are using groovy (jenkins), then you are running the pipeline to find syntax errors.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

FYI, Jenkins has an endpoint to validate the pipeline without running it, and there's a VSCode extension to do this without leaving the editor: https://www.jenkins.io/blog/2018/11/07/Validate-Jenkinsfile/

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Only for declarative pipelines, forget it if you use scripted ones.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I am not using Jenkins anymore but this seems like a lifesaver, thanks for sharing

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I use Jenkins for work, unfortunately, so I have plenty of experience

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

I hate groovy, gradle and Jenkins!

I don't know if sth. Else is better but I can confirm that shit is horrific

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

Horrible scripting language. Even worse than python. Close to Javascript

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

If you don't think Python is a good scripting language, what is a good scripting language in your opinion? Bourne Shell? VBScript? PHP?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I like python and if you use typing it is awesome.

I like kotlin script too. But normal languages are better than scripting languages usually.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Typing in python leaves a lot to be desired... Being looking at peps for quite some time, but it's really hard for the language to make progress without breaking compatibility.

Hopefully at some point MOJO becomes mature enough to use in a professional setting.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago

This comment is triggering and it should have a NSFW spoiler.

[-] [email protected] 108 points 4 weeks ago

This is what they mean by test driven development.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago
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