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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every generation of leftists has its moment of realization that electoralism doesn't work and that the state is not a neutral entity.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Electoralism doesn't work if you approach it as the end be all of all political battlefields. If you consider it one battlefield of many, from which you won't get total victory, but from which you can get substantial stuff, it's useful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The SPD used to be radical, you know. All the social-democratic parties were.

Electoralism deradicalizes and demobilizes the working class, as the means become ends themselves. The politicians end up the leaders of the movement through their position as figureheads and spokesmen for "the people's demands. To be a politician you must strive to be electable. You gotta satisfy wealthy donors to finance your campaigns. This puts pressure on you to make your platform moderate. This is what happened to most of the social-democratic parties of Europe.

Furthermore, the structure of state and the economy means that the unelected state bureaucracy (such as the various managers and officials in the various governments and agencies, or the armed forces) can struggle against you and stifle reforms, while capitalists can use the threat of disinvestment, capital flight, and capital strikes to pressure you, seeing as how they control the economy and you rely on them as a politician to build roads, for example. This happened to the Labour government during the 60s and 70s. The state bureaucracy violently put down the Allende government and the Bosch government as well.

Finally, it accustoms the proletariat to place its fate in other people's hands. It disengages people from direct action.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Hes older than both of the current ones no?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Sanders gets mentioned and ageism suddenly becomes acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Yeah but 8 years ago he was 8 years younger! Also a billion times smarter than the other candidates but no one seemed to care.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Still has a better idea about what's going on than either candidate. He's one of the few senators standing up for the Palestinians.

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