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As organizations are looking to reclaim their digital sovereignty, IONOS and Nextcloud are building the fully featured office suite “Nextcloud Workspace”: a powerful Microsoft 365 alternative. As long-standing partners, we have the expertise to enable large companies and organizations with an all-round office suite as European answer to US products. Announced at the Nextcloud Summit earlier this month, this collaboration for digitally sovereign office software that meets the highest data protection requirements will launch in 2025.

To meet the rigorous needs of public institutions and enterprises, Nextcloud Workspace will integrate a full range of collaboration tools, including file storage and sharing, document editing, email, calendaring, video conferencing, chat, and AI-powered productivity features. Of course, this offering will be fully GDPR compliant and securely hosted in Europe.

Organizations can trust Nextcloud to deliver a fully integrated office and collaboration suite, thanks to the company’s experience in creating the world’s leading private cloud platform. IONOS, Europe’s largest cloud and hosting provider, is the ideal partner to ensure full GDPR compliance and protection from US legal exposure. Hosting will be managed exclusively in Germany, at IONOS’ extensive network of data centers.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago (10 children)

It's an alternative, but IONOS honestly fucking sucks as well, so I'm feeling pretty ambivalent about this.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I'm wondering what will happen to openXchange which ionos is using currently and is afaik also holding parts of. It does exactly the same.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Kinda sounds awful honestly.

I do use nextcloud for my small team. It's the best of the selfhosted file sync platforms.

That said, it's obscenely over engineered.

Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

"Who ever wanted standard features from office 365 from their office 365 competitor"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

you can delete the calendaring and contacts apps

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, you have to complain about them. It's the law.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well if I uninstaller them what would i complain about?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

Most O365 & exchange users? If you just want file sync, this isn't for you. If you want a collaborative (online) office suite that can also sync files, it is. It's meant to be able to replace the whole O365 stack, which includes Outlook.

You can also just not use that part, or any part you don't need. This is basic NC functionality that has been there for a very long time, so why shouldn't it be part of the package?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Please tell me they're not writing it in php.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I might be wrong, but it sounds like hosted nextcloud, not a completely new platform.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Nextcloud is so slow and brittle, I can’t imagine scaling

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It would be nice if they could offer alternatives for individuals with prices comparable to those of Hetzner Storage Share (which is based on NC). Somewhat, I feel every other NC hosting solution is way more expensive per GB.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The Hetzner Storage Share lacks a lot of features that Nextcloud IONOS have. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think Hetzner has an office suite for Nextcloud?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I didn't check it, tbh. Unluckily, I need almost perfect compatibility with MS Office for my job (shared documents). You're most likely right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hey, I had been searching for a reasonably priced NC hosting for a while. I even considered a VPS from Hetzner but somehow didn't find this. Thanks for pointing it out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Glad to have helped. The only issue I may have with it is that the web frontend feels a bit slow, but O mainly use it as a file sync service, so it doesn't bother me too much.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 days ago (12 children)

Oh shit

This will undoubtedly have a major impact against Microsoft and even perhaps Google.

AI-powered productivity features.

Everything is pretty sweet except ^the AI productivity features. Hopefully the AI portions are optional opt-ins rather than it being preincluded opt-outs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

It’s all just part of their addons, so you choose yourself if you want AI. You can even choose to have local AI, if you don’t want to use an external AI, which I believe is ChatGPT.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Search your heart. You know which it'll be.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I don't even have to search. I already know it'll be preinstalled/hidden opt-out based on current tech industry trends :/

I'd usually say that "I'm hoping for the best, prepared for the worst" but honestly at this point I think I have 0 hope, and I'm only prepared for the worst.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Thats from the current nextcloud docs:

We strive to bring Artificial Intelligence features to Nextcloud. This section highlights these features, how they work and where to find them. All of these features are completely optional. If you want to have them on your server, you need install them via separate Nextcloud Apps.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'll sleep much better because of this, thanks again!

I wish I could upvote you twice but you have my thanks🤗❤️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Goddamn✊💪💪💪

The one time I'm super thankful to be wrong🙏
Thanks!🤗

What a breath of fucking fresh air finally🤌✨

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (6 children)

No. Anytime who has actually done MSP work understand that most businesses are not purchasing office. They are purchasing a compliance and technology and identity control plane that has just about every add on a business needs.

Personal office use has always been a nice secondary.

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