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    [–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    To be fair

    • GIMP is really good
    • GIMP is hella complex to use

    For example there was a (now enshittified) tool on Android called "image attacher" or something, for making a long image from 2.

    This is probably also pretty easy with some CLI tool.

    I actually took the time to learn "how do I attach 2 images together" in GIMP.

    Or "how do I create a textmarker".

    And the stuff works, but its just very complex.

    attach 2 images

    • Open 1 image
    • "open" "open as another layer" the second image
    • your canvas is as big as the first image. Guess how big it has to be when fitting them next to each other
    • know that there is a difference between "layer surface" and "canvas" for whatever reason
    • in the menubar, find the canvas options
    • find where to resize the canvas and make it bigger
    • click on the surface layer of the other image and move it so it fits where you want it
    • use "merge downwards" to make the 2 layer one. BE CAREFUL TO NOT USE ANY IMAGE PARTS
    • use the crop tool
    • crop the new combined images to the wanted size

    This is sooo manual and seems very hacky. The difference between canvas and layer make no sense to me. The enlargement is "eyeballing". The cropping too. There is no snapping when placing next to each other. There is no "dynamically increase canvas size" option afafaik.

    text marker / highlighter

    Something with brush, make it bigger, yellow, reduce the opaqueness, change the paint mode to "only make darker"


    GIMP is like using cat awk and tail to write an office document lol. It works but it is damn technical.

    But if you know how to do it, you know how to do it.

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

    Least toxic Linux thread

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

    Oh, vim community became gimp community.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

    The amount of times I see, "Have you tried just googling it?" As a response to a tech issue is too damn high.

    The best part is seeing those answers in threads that I got to by googling my question.

    "Thank you for your helpful advise of 'just Google it' I've now found dozens of threads with that exact same answer to the question I have."

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Dinosaur here.

    Windows Paint, as it was back in 9x? Totally my jam. Between that and Irfanview for access to resizing and filter features Paint didn't have, I could get a surprising amount done.

    But then they updated Paint to have more advanced abilities and I had no idea how to do things any more.

    I've tried Krita recently, but I felt lost. I think I need to attend a course or watch some videos on layers and the brushes and everything like that. It isn't intuitive at all. None of the advanced graphics programs are.

    Old Paint? You didn't need a how-to or a course. It was one layer. No overwhelming number of tools and options. You wanted another layer? You opened another Paint window.

    You wanted anti-aliasing? You drew things two or four times the size then used something like Irfanview to shrink it down when you were done.

    Damn kids get off my etc.

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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Affinity really needs to start making official Linux ports. It’ll work in Wine, but is a bit janky.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

    It's just bots being bots

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    A person shows up in a room full of random people. Punches one in the face and starts swinging at everyone else. People instinctively start to defend themselves and, as they are more numerous, overwhelm and badly wound the instigator. OP walks into the room, "everyone in this room is so violent, look everyone, they are so violent". People outside the room hearing OP, "yeah, I bet anyone like them is just as violent".

    “GIMP = Epic POS. Do not use. Please recommend a decent alternative. Don't waste your time with GIMP help because I am done.”

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Always has been, and I am using Linux since 1993 (my first install was kernel 0.99, on floppies, on a 486DX50)

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    It looks like this was asked in a GIMP forum, so I’m not really surprised at the backlash. It’s super rude to ask that in that forum. Like, they shouldn’t be rude back, but I understand why they were.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    It looks like this was asked in a GIMP forum, [...] It’s super rude to ask that in that forum.

    Why? Just because you're using a forum for a piece of software, presumably because you want to receive or offer help on using the software for the most part, doesn't mean you're obsessed with it and hate all other alternatives that exist.

    It's software, not a religion. These people need some perspective.

    Imagine being in a community where being asked about alternatives is considered extremely rude. What a weird group of cult-like obsessives that would be. Creepy o.O

    Also regarding why one would ask GIMP users about alternatives, theoretically these would be the best people to ask for GIMP alternatives. They presumably know the software well, and have probably tried alternatives (because they're not obsessive weirdos that worship a single brand image their whole lives), and can give good answers on what alternatives exist and how they compare to GIMP in its current feature set.

    They may even actively use multiple softwares on a regular basis. There's no law against using GIMP and one or two similar pieces of software that perhaps have slightly different features or are better at one thing vs another.

    It's not rude to put a reasonable question about a piece of software and how it exists in the ecosystem to a group that knows a lot about that software. It isn't a sacred holy cult object of worship. It's just a program.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Is it? It's just a forum it's not like he's asking the devs

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    It would be like going into a Microsoft forum and asking about alternatives to Windows. That’s obviously not the right place to do it. They should ask this in a general digital photography forum, or a general open source forum.

    They also called GIMP an “epic POS” in their comment.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Hey, you guys know any good alternatives to Lemmy? Lol.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

    Sublinks looks like it could be interesting.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

    Mbin. Compatible with both Lemmy and Mastodon. Con: Mbin is even more beta software than Lemmy is. Lots of missing QoL.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

    For you, I'd suggest xitter, filth casual

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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

    GIMP is already a suitable requirement

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I've been using gimp for as long as I can remember using Linux since 2000. The interface has changed so much lately that I can barely use it. I can't find half the controls anymore.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Well, I don't know if it'll be maintained long term considering the disclaimer at the top of the README, but the PhotoGIMP plugin has always kept the interface consistent for me, and I've had it installed working well for 3.5 years now.

    https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    The biggest revelation for me when I switched to Photoshop for work about 4 years ago is that non-destructive editing is sooooo much nicer.

    I always had dozens of "backup" layers in my years with Gimp just in case I messed something up. I was always cautious about the order in which you had to do things. I was amazed with photoshop at the fact that you could edit text after warping, gradient coloring and outlining it. Saved so much hassle.

    I read non-destructive is in the pipelines for Gimp, and that would finally make it start become a viable alternative again.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Non destructive means like when you use a tool to add something, it isn't "final". You can still edit that brush stroke or resize a shape?

    Kind of like in Inkscape when you edit an SVG?

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Photopea. It's photoshop but on your browser.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

    Pixlr-E is in that same category.

    [–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    many such cases. good to call it out, and needs to happen more often and consistently as toxicity is the #1 barrier to the “year of the Linux desktop” in my experience

    edit: also https://krita.org/

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

    Krita is really good for digital drawing and painting, but photoshop does cover a lot of other things, which krita can not do. In that sense Krita is more of a Corel PaintShop Pro alternative. While GIMP is the best, but still very bad, alternative to photoshop.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Well, at least you don't have to suck dicks or whatever to vote and post comments like in ShitStackOverflow

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

    Duplicate question: 10-year-old-link-to-a-thread-that-doesn't-contain-an-answer-either

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

    Uh huh, uh huh. And how many dicks do I ~~get~~ have to suck per vote? Can you provide a link and very detailed instructions on the process? You know, so I can make sure I never go there before my wife comes home from work.

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