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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (9 children)

As an owner of the Switch (with a huge backlog) and a dreaming owner of the Steam Deck, should I be happy or worried about the backlog?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

More like 129% considering I can play all the Switch games on a Deck.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

And you can emulate the Switch on the Deck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

As a Lenovo Go user that can access both worlds this is an interesting article to see where I stand in terms of overall access to games. But shouldn't a Steamdeck have more titles? As far as I know you can't you also side install Windows for games from other platforms?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's should also include the entire switch library.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Concerning my usage of Emudeck it should also contain nearly every other console.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

This is just steam titles in the verified program. Protondb has 21k steam games that are reported working, and there's also non-steam games and emulation.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Isn't that comparison asinine? I mean... Yeah, no shit. One is a handheld PC and the other isn't.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While the Steam Deck is technically a handheld PC, as a Linux enthusiast who's tried to use the desktop mode for laptoppy things... No it isn't.

It works in a pinch (well... Not for my job, but I also don't expect Valve to put lxd into SteamOS), but the comparison to the Switch (which I also own) is much better than comparing it to even a gaming laptop. In fact, if I were the type of person to emulate stuff (which, don't worry Nintendo, I totally am not), I would say my Steam Deck makes a better switch than my switch. If I'd emulated a Switch to play Mario Kart (which obviously I haven't) I'd say it was a better experience on my Steam Deck than on my switch.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

While the Steam Deck is technically a handheld PC, as a Linux enthusiast who's tried to use the desktop mode for laptoppy things... No it isn't.

Desktop mode is literally just KDE, and you can install whatever OS you want on it anyway. In what way is it not a handheld PC?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think they mean functionally.

I know everytime I've had to do extended work in desktop mode I've had to use a USB mouse and keyboard. Obviously, it's a handheld PC, but it's not really designed to replace your laptop.

You could use it as a desktop computer with a dock though, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

It's not supposed to replace a laptop.

You could use it as a desktop computer with a dock though, I suppose.

Companies making similar products seem to be aiming for this use case (for example, the GPD Win 4 has an optional dock, and can connect to an external GPU (they even sell one) through its USB 4 port).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What I'm saying is that the PC comparison simply misses the point, whereas the Switch comparison is a comparison of how the devices are intended to be used (and for the most part actually used). The Steam Deck is not a good device for running a development environment or most of the things one thinks of as "PC tasks." It's not designed for that.

One can use it in that way, but one of the biggest differences between the Steam Deck and its "more pc-ish" competitors like the Ally is that Valve has done a lot of work to make desktop mode unnecessary for the vast majority of users. The user experience puts it much more directly in competition with the Switch than with other handheld PCs, and that's a strength of the Deck, not a weakness.

One can install Linux on a Switch too, at which point it's basically an ARM-based handheld PC. But a reviewer who reviewed the Switch for its power as a handheld Linux machine would be missing the point too.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Sorry but no, you're the one who missed the point. The point (in the comment you originally replied to) was that it's obvious a handheld PC will have more games than the Switch, as the Switch is a console that came out a few years ago while PC games have been a thing for decades.

Whether or not you consider the Steam Deck a handheld PC doesn't change this.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They're competitors on form factor. Actually, the one difference you mention is precisely why I'll probably be buying a SteamDeck instead of a Nintendo Switch. I can play Nintendo games on both after all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are only competitors for people who are fairly ignorant. Steam deck comes with the ability to play switch games for free...

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago

Nintendo coming to shut down valve 💀

[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I'm surprised the difference isn't much higher, but I guess there's a ton of shovelware on the Switch.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Steam is the same way

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (3 children)

respectfully, how have you not seen the infinite rivers of shovelware on steam since they stopped vetting the store ~10 years ago?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd be surprised if many of those are verified for steam deck?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Yeah. They probably work fine on the deck too, but they can only verify so many games and those are low priority.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 months ago (10 children)

It is much higher. Those are just the officially approved numbers. You can get a lot more games than that working though. Most will probably run out of the box anyway, or with just slight tinkering, assuming the performance of the Deck suffices of course. You may have to create custom control mappings though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Slight tinkering and slight annoyances. Like some text is hard to read or unreadable, button/key prompts are wrong. Frame limiting being wonky, sound glitches. But all in all still amazing to be able to play your stuff on the go.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Yup. I've just been purchasing games without the Verified tag now because I'll just be like: "yeah that seems like it'd work and it typically does".

I made the mistake of installing Stardew Valley on it for 1.6. Oof, I'm playing it everywhere. Very bad when you can't handle your addictions well.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Tried to get steredenn working on Steam deck in February. Failed miserably (controls didn't work).

Works on switch (within it's limitations of course).

Take that 😂

Btw steredenn is even Linux natively, that's what made me even more angry.

Edit: What's with the downvotes? I mean it's fine but - if I did something wrong or it works since date x, tell me!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Btw steredenn is even Linux natively, that's what made me even more angry.

That's basically the issue... especially older Linux ports run worse than the Windows version. I hope Valve will eventually consider setting Proton as the default for some games even when they are native, as their ports are usually abandoned and outdated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I tried everything the ui is able to to, proton and all, to no avail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It also works with the major Switch emulators, although maybe you meant that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Haha, nice to know but no 😁.

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