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submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Paris votes to crack down on SUVs | Non-Parisians will be charged almost $20 per hour to park large gas or hybrid vehicles within the city center in a bid to address pedestrian safety and air pollu...::Parisians have voted to increase parking charges for out-of-town SUV drivers as part of the city’s efforts to address road safety, air pollution, and climate change.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

For people not living in Europe to give some context this is what a French SUV looks like compared to a F150.

Screenshot_20240206-210728_Fennec carsized.com

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

good. suvs are terrible in so many ways just for vanity

[+] [email protected] -21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

It says it right there: SUVs are less safe and more polluting. The entire city is impacted by that, so they're recouping some of the cost.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Two pedestrians walk out into the street while looking at their phones. They bump into each other, and each says "Oof. Oh, sorry. I wasn't looking where I was going." Then they both continue on their way, and barely remember that each failed to follow the rules of travel on the roads of their town.

That interaction becomes VASTLY different when one or both of those people is driving an SUV.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'd like to fine you at least €20/hour for typing with your fucking toes.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

Glad to see an european country taking steps to counteract the trend of larger cars.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

'Paris votes' but 5.6% of parisians made the effort. Laughable

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Only non-Parisians? :(

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The article is wrong. Paris is divided in 20 districts (arrondissements), and the new fee applies to cars parked outside of their home district, as well as non-Parisians.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

That is... Better than expected

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Well, it would not be fun if people suddenly voted against themselves just to do the right thing for everyone.

[+] [email protected] -14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

So a Toyota rav4 hybrid (3,800 pounds) would be treated like a big truck. RAV4 has better front viewing than a sedan. This is just feel good bullshit.

If it’s about safety just make Pedestrian crash avoidance mitigation (PCAM) standard by law going forward.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Source on the better visibility?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

By my European standards that is definitely an SUV for me. It is less about ability to see a pedestrian than it is about the ability to kill if someone gets hit with a high vehicle front.

It is also about taking up a lot of space. European streets are small an parking spots are also small. These big cars frequently take up more than 1 parking spot.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Still a 60% weight increase to a VW Up! A car much better suited for living in a European metropol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

What do you mean?

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