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this post was submitted on 23 May 2024
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I think SearXNG is best.
I keep seeing this and I tried it but I couldnβt get great results consistently. Maybe I need to spend some more time looking into it again
It may be the instance you used or something else I'm not aware of, but I always get great results.
The only thing is sometimes an instance dies and I need to find and start using another one, but it's not a big deal. You can find instances here.
I did 2 searches yesterday that gave me crap on Google and then I tried Bing and it gave me what I was looking for on the first page.
https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/
Read for the exact timeline
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Startpage (has Google search results) or Google with private browsing haven't given me the new AI suggestions so far
It might be my localization, but it doesn't seem that bad to me, and I generally use duckduckgo. But forced localization is enough.
Google has been this bad since their initial IPO, when they signalled their intent to do this, and should have been stopped to protect the most useful public utility ever invented. Since that day they've been a pimp; the decision to become a pimp led to this.
Google is great if you want to buy things. It's absolutely shit for information gathering.
Id argue itβs also shit for buying things because it will only give you products with paid ads. Itβs useless to discover adjacent products or finding different sources.
And in web search when searching for a product it gives you dozens of "product tests" pages that are actually paid SEO articles. No, that page that shares a name with a newspaper has not actually tested what the best dishwasher in 2024 is.
I don't think Google can be beat when it comes to searching local businesses, but otherwise you might as well go straight to Wikipedia.
Yeah Iβll concede that, Google is still good for local business and maps.
It used to be great for information if you included reddit in the search terms. Instead of google learning from reddit, reddit is now full of ads and bots. I guess google apps will be complete garbage soon too.
I remember a time when you didn't even have to include Reddit to get good Google search results.
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I'd argue the noise is to a point where it's even shit for buying things.
I don't know, been on Kagi for a year so forgot Google.
Looks nice, do you recommend it? Why not use ddg?
I use it, and like it. They dropped prices a while back so now you can get unlimited searches for $10 a month (they also have a $5 limited tier and a free trial).
First thing is I'd like to live in a world where search engines (and the internet in general) don't have to be ad supported. This is a different model so I want to support it.
But also Kagi has some nice features. My favourite is how I can block Pinterest, and boost the ranking of other sites like Wikipedia. Basically you can have some control over search results.
If you're familiar with SearxNG, that's basically how Kagi works. They run the searches on a bunch of search engines and then present one cohesive search results page. But SearxNG for me takes several seconds to get the results, and Kagi is almost instant.
I don't know if it's significantly better than the free options, but I like using it and it's pretty cheap really.
Not OP, but I copy my reply from the last time someone asked an opinion on kagi:
I use it, but to be honest I did not do a comprehensive comparison. I like it mostly for the fine grained website control. For work and some personal stuff I often look for code and can push websites like GitHub to appear more often. Or I can block Pinterest in my search results. I tried to do this in SearXNG, but this was too much of a hassle so in a way I pay kagi for convenience. I recently got a new job and will evaluate in the coming months if it is still worth the money, but right now I am satisfied. Nobody else I know would pay for a search engine, so I can understand the stance, but I am really fed up with all the advertising and enshitification so I thought why not give it a try. And yes, because it was recommended here.
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