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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

    this is why you never go full flatpak

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

    Thank you for spelling "every time" properly, and I'm sorry we're at the stage where that's an accomplishment.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

    I reboot every day thanks to arch.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Joke's on you, I use Arch and already reboot twice a day for updates.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    You're rebooting for updates?? I just use an infinite recursion of chroots.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

    "The day the chroots came chrashing down"

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

    This is the part i dislike like with Fedora compared with Ubuntu. It is so many updates.

    But since you can choose the time when to install the updates, there is a less of a problem.

    Normally you don't notice any difference. And updates is much faster to install on Linux in general. Windows eats loads of CPU.

    [–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I mean, I just set my system to only check for updates once a week.

    There's no real reason to install every update, the second it's available. If there's a big security fix you should get asap, you'll hear about it.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    That little up arrow in the sys tray might as well be a gun to my head

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

    Which is why you reduce the frequency at which the system checks for updates.

    Once I get notified it's irresistible.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

    Yeah I think I'm gonna do that, thanks

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

    There's really no need to update every instance one pops up.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Try whatever ublue floats your boat, it all happens in the background, the power of atomic updates baby, if something breaks, just go back to the previous one...

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    I get the same messages, despite using uBlue.
    It's because of Flatpak.

    I disabled the notifications and enabled daily/ weekly auto-updates of Flatpaks, otherwise I would get spammed to oblivion.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

    enable flatpak-system-update.service if it's not...works for me.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Flatpak runtimes aren't part of atomic updates.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

    but flatpak-system-update.service is a part of ublue

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

    Atomic updates!? I don't think my PC has the proper radiation shielding for atomic updates...

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    At some point I think some devs might be refactoring a switch-case into an if-else and calling it an "update" to troll downstreams.

    [–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    apparently fools consider a finished app "dead" or "abandoned" if there isn't a new release every week. so yeah, dev's will just change a comment to not have their apps shunned

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    For a correct metric one must multiply the time since last update by the number of open issues

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

    For me if an app doesn't get updated within 13 months, I'll look for an alternative, why 13 ? It's my cursed unlucky number...

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    new features? We don't do that here.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Wait what, the newest version has been released december 2022?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

    The point of my original post was that their update cadence is slower. The point of my followup reply is that they are not devoid of updates, either.

    They have a release every 1-2 years, and it's packed full for various tweeks, improvements, and new features. They fix broken shit, and enhance where it makes sense.

    I don't need my window manager to get fad features, and I don't need constant updates. It does what I want it to do already.

    xfce ftw.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Meh. No Flatpak, no worries. And no updates, no new software or security patches.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Speaking of Debian:

    No bugfixes? Yes. The software will not be changed to fix a usual bug.

    No security patches? No. Security patches are applied.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    I have Debian on my servers for a decade or so, and on several workstations. My past experience doesn't quite reflect that. The Debian guys and gals have always been pretty quick with patching the vulnerabilities. Like outstanding fast.

    There is some merit to the bugfixing. But that's kind of the point of Debian Stable(?!) Like in the meme picture of this post I don't want updates each day. And I also don't want the software on my servers to change too much on their own. I know my bugs and have already dealt with them and I'm happy that it now works seamlessly for 6 months or so...

    And that's also why I have Debian Testing on my computer. That gives me sort of an unofficial rolling distro. With lots of updates and bugfixes. I mean in the end you can't have no updates and lots of updates at the same time. It's either - or. And we can choose depending on the use-case. (I think the blame is on the admin if they choose a wrong tool for a task.)

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

    Exactly. The Debian team is quite conservative in fixing non-critical bugs in the stable branch, as it may introduce new bugs.

    If one wants more up-to-date software, the testing branch is a valid choice or Siduction, if one is brave enough.

    [–] [email protected] 132 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You know if you use temple_os you don't have to worry about updates?

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You do have to worry about some things though. I couldn't say what those things are, but I have a hunch that temple_os users have some pretty unique worries.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

    Oh yes. Like the fucking CIA and the FBI.

    [–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Help! My boot loader got corrupted by SATAN!

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

    You need to excorcise those daemons!

    [–] [email protected] 100 points 5 months ago

    It is impossible to update perfection

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