What, does it talk like that grey bluetooth speaker often featured on Dankpods?
this post was submitted on 23 May 2024
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Isn't calling the voice "flirty" sexist? It didn't seem flirty in any of the clips I heard of it.
This was my voice of choice because it sounded like a "person on the other side" is engaged. Like when you talk to a friend or teacher who's interested in the topic.
If somebody thinks it's somehow related to sexuality, gender questions, etc, they have to check themselves.
But if OpenAI didn’t do anything wrong, why would it take down the voice?
This almost made me stop reading. What a garbage point, if someone is offended by something I did, even if I did nothing wrong, I don't do it to them again because I'm not an asshole. He's clearly an asshole who tried to use her voice anyway, but this line of questioning is garbage...decent people apologize all the time when they've done nothing wrong, and then not do the offending thing again, without admitting guilt.
But the design choice is worrying on an ethical level. Researchers say it reinforces sexist stereotypes of women as servile beings who exist only to do someone else’s bidding — to help them, comfort them, and plump up their ego.
And this is where I stopped. If they had used a male voice, they could have argued that they were excluding women. But they did a study and picked the voice people would respond to the best. And objective choice. The author set out to find sexism, and by golly they did it. Amazing.
What a garbage point, if someone is offended by something I did, even if I did nothing wrong, I don't do it to them again because I'm not an asshole.
Putting aside the jury still being out in the last part of that statement, Sam Altman has showed himself to not only be an asshole, but an asshole who will do anything he thinks he can get away with. So the statement you took issue with "but if OpenAI didn't do anything wrong, why would it take down the voice" is accurate. Considering the pattern of behavior from Altman and OpenAI that action is a rather implicit admission of guilt.
They did something wrong. We both agree.
But the suggestion that doing something to correct the offense is considered an admission of guilt is garbage logic. This is why people are so hesitant to apologize or move to correct perceived wrongs, because people treat doing so as an admission that you did something wrong.
Well what about the fact that they asked her to do it multiple times and right before they launched it the CEO tweeted the word "Her"?
He’s clearly an asshole who tried to use her voice anyway
Can you explain to me what you think this line meant?Because I'm not sure how I could have made it more clear.
I don't really care what the article says or what opinions the author has. I'm just asking what you think about those facts involving the subject of said articles.
I believe I've already answered your question, with the statement I quoted, which is why I'm asking you what you think that means.
My bad, I thought you were quoting the article, not yourself. It's clear now I wasn't seeing the difference between disagreeing with the article and disagreeing with them fucking up. It's no excuse but I was probably high, I am right now too
Lol I'm over it. Enjoy. I'm hoping to join you real soon out in this nice weather we're having.
The potential of a "exclusion argument" does not justify reinforcing the servile, assistant stereotype. Researchers arent pulling that one out of their ass.
I could pull together a youtube playlist of beardy men explaining why woman hating is bad. Would you like that?
(Edit: Rhetorical. We can all see your true colors with the "gay agenda" conspiracy pushing bs.)
The potential of a “exclusion argument” does not justify reinforcing the servile, assistant stereotype.
My point is that no matter what openai did, the author could have found sexism in it. It's not hard to create something like this if you're really trying.
I could pull together a youtube playlist of beardy men explaining why woman hating is bad. Would you like that?
I don't follow.
(Edit: Rhetorical. We can all see your true colors with the “gay agenda” conspiracy pushing bs.)
Lol. I've been an lbgtq ally probably even before you were born. The fact that I can see that this ridiculously biased source for what it is doesn't make me a conspiracy theorist against gay people.
Thanks for demonstrating my point. You were desperate to reveal my "try colors" and, by golly, you were going to find it regardless of how much you had to spin.
Yeah this is a real: "Let me find a problem and not let them apologize." You don't like Open AI. Ok. I'm sure you have a good reason. So focus on that and stop contriving controversy. You're not changing any minds like that. That only gets kudos from people that already agree with you.
Why not just have both a male and female voice, and ideally one that's as neutral as possible?
There is a choice of different voices, it wasn't and isn't a problem. But Sky was the best in my opinion, so even if I support the right of ms Johansson to not hear her voice out of every device, it's personally kinda sad that they're removing it
They do have 2 male voices. The article is complaining about the choice of sky for the demo.
Neutral is boring? Flaws add as much character to a thing as beauty
I've listened to it, and it sounds nothing like Scarlett does. I had to find a movie with Scarlett in it to compare with, and I can honestly tell you ChatGPT sounds nothing like Natasha in Black Widow.
(Joke aside, ChatGPT doesn't sound like Scarlett at all).
After the uproar, I was expecting it to be way closer...but not at all? Really?
I probably should say "IMO".
They played it on a local radio station here yesterday, and even they were mocking it as "not close".
Didnt hear this radio interview, but the video they released sounded too close based on the fact that they asked for permission and she said no.
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