I have an 04 canyon and it's ran great with proper maintenance and some repairs. Modern vehicles should last a long time as long as you put the needed maintenance into them
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I'm cool in my 2009 with no payments for what I do.
Good news for a bad reason.
Even if money is no object, in many ways 10-15 year old vehicles may be the sweet spot in terms of decent features without sacrificing privacy.
I don't want a monolithic touchscreen (zero physical buttons) with apps, integration, cameras on me in the cabin, data collection and harvesting etc. For that reason I will stick with a decade plus old car.
I watched a video that basically points this out. People have already figured out how to make the most optimum vehicle about 10 years ago, hell probably before, but because we live in a capitalistic society, manufacturers have to keep "innovating" and raising prices and adding useless features that create more problems than convenience. Touchsreens in cars are a perfect example: 1 - At first they were used to display radio and connect to gps, but are now overglorofied phones that have basic car features buried behind menus and laggy screens 2 - Distracted driving was already a problem with texting and driving. So lets put a giant screen on the dash where you can watch Netflix (while I doubt you can while driving, the fact I still gotta look at a screen to turn my wipers on in a flash of rain is a major flaw) 3 - Its a new source of revanue, you'd be stupid NOT to put a screen in your car. All that juicy data, waiting to be collected and sold. If Watch_Dogs taught me anything, its that making our world smarter only makes us more vulnerable. 4 - We were able to get around WITHOUT a screen in our car. A phone mount, a bluetooth adapter, and a dashcam make my 2012 mini cooper feel like a 2025 modern smartcar. Sure it sucks that I had to buy the external upgrades, but I've still got modern conveniences like seat warmers, AC, cruise control, traction control. (The only feature I can give Tesla is Self-Driving mode, which is still in beta, so you're more of a test subject and not a paying customer) 5 - (This is a personal rant) A screen looks fancy, until you realize its actually cheaper to call it a software problem, rather than manufacturing dedicated switches. Making it even harder to repair, since your mechanic now has to learn to code, alnogside manual labor if a part is broken.
The only benefit I see in buying the latest car is if you're worried about the car being overworked. Aka its legit old and undrivable, but the way I see it, its cheaper to fix your old car over breaking your brand new cybertruck before its off the lot.
Oh, I actually remembered an innovation they have done, make the cars bigger. Because for some reason, people will keep paying 1000$ monthly payments as long as their pickup slowly becomes a monster truck
Finally waking up to the con
I bought my current car, an '08, for $7000 in 2014. I paid it off in 2017 and havent had a car payment in years, its been a dream. I get car envy and fantisize about buying a new car but then i look at the prices and im content with currently paying $0 a month
it's* been a dream
Also an 08. I am fine. Plan to keep it going as long as I possibly can and then buy an EV.
I've never had a car loan in my life. I've never had comprehensive insurance. I've had four cars in 22 years. Only once have I had a car less than 12.6 years old, and just barely. 10y is the sweet spot when I go used car shopping.
My current 2007 C4 grand picasso sitting at 153k km should last me at least another four-five years before I hit my pain point maintenance-wise.
I cracked the windshield on my current car, but that repair cost 1/5 of what 22 years of windshield insurance would've cost, ignoring inflation.
Requirements for a car. 1: All wheel drive 2: Small station wagon 3: Manual transmission 4: No touch screen 5: Does not connect to internet
Yup, looks like 2014 is the newest car I can buy.
Get your shit together car companies and maybe I'll be interested in you products again.
The only newer feature I like is rear view cam. Its really a useful feature.
It's* really
I do like those, but can add my own easy enough.
Volvo XC70
Subaru outback is the goat of station wagons
Always wanted a Volvo, my sister in law raced an V70 R for a while.
V70 R is a sleeper car. So fast!
I love my 2012 Mini and want to keep it for a long time, but it keeps trying to kill itself. I won't let it happen!!
Drove my end of teens car just over 14 years, 230k miles. Transmission finally started to give and honestly for most of its life I treated the car like dog shit, but I learned to do most maintenance myself eventually. I did buy a new 2024 civic and I do love it so far, and it being a Honda I already know how to work on it from my last car. Maybe eventually I'll find time and a bit of budget to fix my old one but realistically for now I have to travel and work.
Nice to not read a BS headline reframing things along the lines of "stingy millennials refuse to support new cars because of DEI!"
We killed the napkins because of avocado toast!
My truck is -07 and it's the newest vehicle I've ever had. I'm not even especially interested about newer models because they just get more difficult to fix yourself and come with bunch of features that I prefer to live without. I prefer a work horse over fashion accessories tho mine is quite nice to look at aswell. Especially from distance.
Yeah bruh, i bought a Camry 11 years ago and a Sienna 7 years ago, i plan to drive them both for 20 years, minimum.
Feel the same way. My Camry is a 2013—recent enough to have a simple display and Bluetooth, but old enough to predate the 'modern' infotainment systems.
Believe me, I plan to drive this car until the scrapyards run out of part donors.
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