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The first time Julian Chavez got laid off from his job as a digital ad sales rep at web.com didn’t turn him off from the tech industry. Neither did the second time when he was laid off from ZipRecruiter. By the third time, though, Chavez had had enough.

“I really loved what I did,” said Phoenix-based Chavez in a text message. “But the layoffs got me jaded.” Now he’s pursuing a graduate degree in psychology.

Chavez is one of hundreds of thousands of tech workers who’ve been laid off in the past two years in what now seems like a never-ending wave of cuts that has upended the culture of Silicon Valley and the expectations of those who work at some of America’s richest and most powerful companies.

Last year, tech companies laid off more than 260,000 workers according to layoff tracker Layoffs.fyi, cuts that executives mostly blamed on “over-hiring” during the pandemic and high interest rates making it harder to invest in new business ventures. But as those layoffs have dragged into 2024 despite stabilizing interest rates and a booming job market in other industries, the tech workforce is feeling despondent and confused.

The U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January, a huge boost that was around twice what economists had expected. And yet, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Discord, Salesforce and eBay all made significant cuts in January, and the layoffs don’t seem to be abating. On Tuesday, PayPal said in a letter to workers it would cut another 2,500 employees or about 9 percent of its workforce.

The continued cuts come as companies are under pressure from investors to improve their bottom lines. Wall Street’s sell-off of tech stocks in 2022 pushed companies to win back investors by focusing on increasing profits, and firing some of the tens of thousands of workers hired to meet the pandemic boom in consumer tech spending. With many tech companies laying off workers, cutting employees no longer signaled weakness. Now, executives are looking for more places where they can squeeze more work out of fewer people.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Work in tech, I’m so fucking overworked lately that it’s massively cut down my productivity.

I can’t keep jumping from short deadline high priority to short deadline high priority and still do the baseline work needed to be efficient. So what ends up happening is I’m doing way more throw away work now than I ever have.

If I had more staff on my team we could balance the work out and get stable foundations to work from, but that doesn’t let leadership pretend we’re all better off now than a year ago and that the institutional failings of the org are all solved because they expertly threw the right people in the trash via randomly firing people.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (12 children)

I have a friend who's in exactly your same position, and a spouse who was randomly fired away from a team run by someone in exactly your same position. It's eerie how consistent and systemic these problems are across the entire sector.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

It's the exact position I'm in as well. Short deadline high priority projects without the staff needed to actually get it done.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Since Covid I think the tech CEOs only talk to other tech CEOs, VCs demanding their payout, and their EAs.

The CEO bubble was so clearly visible with NFTs and now AI.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (8 children)

It's called the rule of 40, and it's the metric that has tech executives acting like bipolar Chihuahuas. Grow, cut, expand, right-size, cross the chasm, reorg, polish the turd and cover the smell. If a tech company doesn't hit their rule of 40, their stock suffers. If they do, the stock soars.

% growth year over year + % profit margin should be greater than 40. 20% growth and 20% profit margin, or 0% growth and 40% profit margin, it doesn't make a difference.

That means if you have a 15% profit margin, your target growth is 25%. But if you only grow, say, 20%, you must make that 5% back by cutting COGS. Companies trying to grow will hire staff to build up sales and get more done. If the growth doesn't hit its target, those new hires are probably cheaper than the experienced people. Time for layoffs and outsourcing the veterans.

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if the metrics say the economy is booming but nobody can afford anything, and we keep losing well paying jobs for slightly more lower paying jobs, maybe we need to reconsider how we're defining 'the economy.'

But maybe the capitalists who own news sources already know that.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

We've selectively sampled like 5 metrics and carefully confused population averages with the median and can confidently say: yachts are more affordable. QED you're wrong.

/s

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

You can only cut away so much before you hit bone. A company cannot be all profit and nothing else. But none of these investors care cause they get theirs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I got into tech partially because you can scale a product much further and much cheaper than conventional industries. I was able to create and sell two small tech products/companies I made by myself, and that's how I got into the industry.

I think in tech you can vastly cut jobs while keeping the product alive, but it's impossible to grow a product without a solid team who knows the product deeply. These current cuts save money now and companies aren't seeing the downside, but long term opportunities will become harder and harder to actually reach.

Having too many layers of hierarchy is bad because you can't coordinate teams and move. Having too few means your staff will need to acquire tech debt and you'll start seeing failures nobody understands.

This is short term gain for shareholders, long-term pain as companies will see lower growth and have to resort to more squeezing of existing customers.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is capitalism. It doesn’t care where it comes from or how the money comes in. But b***h better have my money.

This is why the country is going to hell. It can’t even invest in infrastructure anymore because there’s no short term profit in it.

Welcome to our late stage capitalist nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If anyone wants to band their tribes together in the wastes of the Mojave waive a trans pride flag and we won't shoot.

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