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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

this is cool but what is the point now given all the options today and the way we listen to music now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Even back then the real power of winamp was in plugins. You can't get away with the truly hacky crap and windows anymore.

The only thing I really cared for back in the day was visualization and the aggressive crossfade plugin.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

OK, I'm confused.

I have seen 2 different articles that claim WinAmp is NOt going to be open sourced. At least in the common sense. But rather kind - of - sort - of - but - not - really.

Here is a https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/home-entertainment/winamp-is-not-going-open-source-heres-what-it-is-doing-and-why/ ZDNET article about it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

They are open sourcing, just keeping a proprietary license on it. Yes, it's weird, but it is not unheard of. The Unreal game engine's entire source code is open, anyone can read or submit changes to it. Even make changes and distribute said changes. But it's still a proprietary product owned by Epic Games, and commercial use is strictly controlled under the licensing terms. Open doesn't mean Free (as in beer), or Freedom (licensing). Those are three different things. It is just that people have associated the term open source with the entire Free and Open Source Software philosophy. But they aren't the same thing.

ZDNET is wrong, Winamp is open sourcing their code. The article is obtuse and refuses to elaborate or provide reasons about their claim that Winamp isn't open sourcing.

it cannot be open source with that level of corporate control

Why?

It not only can, we have several examples of corporate products that are open source precisely like this with this level of control.

Open source requiring a specific license is a decades old debate that continues to this day. We have like a million different licenses and people argue and bicker all the time about which ones are Truly Open source ™ and which ones aren't. It's all legalese that make most people have headaches. But there's one crux on this whole thing: Open source does not preclude commercialization of software. This is why people are proposing the term source-available software. Winamp might go for that model and the debate would still go on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

There is a different term for that:source-available

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is NOT open source. There is a meaning behind that specific term and they are said it in their announcement that they are only "opening up its source". Don't use that term for this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

A lot of companies are starting to do this most people are referring to it as source available rather than open source. I'm kind of surprised I don't just turn it into an electron app and get it over with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Thanks for the explanation!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Man. I still use winamp to this day and I've been using them since they came out.

It's the only music player that organizes the music in a way that makes sense. I love the library interface.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Same. My only gripe is that the ui doesn’t scale at all which makes it hard to use on 4K.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Apparently the newer version fixed that issue but it's not default. If you update it you can mess around with it in the settings.

There's someone in the comment here that explains it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Wow this brings me back. What is winamp used for these days?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Whipping the llamas music.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Like, ripped mp3s like the old days?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nothing wrong with how it was done back then, I still do the same today

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No nothing, I just didn't think anyone did this anymore. I don't even have any CDs anymore

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I refuse to pay for a subscription where I don't own the music. CD's, records, tapes - I still do it. I do need to start ripping mp3's off YouTube more though - just a matter of time before shit starts disappearing

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

That saucy llama!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It really whips the llama's ass. It's back from the death!!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I really liked winamp when my screen resolution wasn't so high. I wish the interface could scale so I can still use the original look without having to squint.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The newest one fixes scaling but you need to set a compatibility setting. Use the newest version. After install right click and hit properties. Click compatibility settings. Set for all users if applicable. Select override hdpi settings. In the drop down select system enhanced. Ok apply ...... Restart the application. Enjoy.

You can also adjust the test in the actual winamp menus. But you can look up how easier than what I laid out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Thank you!!

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