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Members of the software developer community have reported deleting or altering their posts to prevent them from being used by OpenAI.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Irc: I ain't dead yet bitch! Discord is fucking awful for dev and search.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Oh, look, it's Reddit all over again.

(Yes, yes, different reason. Same user response, though.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Okay but why? It's not like it's personal Data or something. I don't get why people are mad ._.

EDIT: Ofcourse you can downvote me but I'd really like an answer, tho. The article is not very clear about this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It gives worse answers and hallucinates a lot, problems specific to the model's design and not how much training data it gets. Even if it did work, it would be taking jobs away from actual programmers. It's a total net negative, users have nothing to benefit from this. Plus, since this is a community of programmers, they're all very much aware of these limitations and the lack of ethics of OpenAI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Except from the “taking Jobs part” I can understand you, thank you :D

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Because it's original work they contributed for free. Lending others that kind of expertise and time, just that it get's used by a machine learning algorithm, which aims to reproduce this, without giving it back to them or the community in a similar free manner, feels violating.
Apart from that, creators feel ownership over their content and it feels wrong not to be asked what happens to it. (Although those probably wouldn't – or shouldn't – use SO anyway, as their content gets commercialised anyway by giving it SO for free.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I get the feelings, but once they added the content in SO, it was no longer their content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

it was no longer their content.

all posts were supposedly licensed under creative commons

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Do they have the non-commercial/no-derivative clause?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Aaaaah okay that is somehting I can understand, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

time for users to shred their comments and posts

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If it’s free online, you are the product

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily, no. There are a plethora of non-profit services and pages on the net.

What platform do you think you used to write that commeent?

Regarding platforms of for-profit companies, you are more right than wrong though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Oh I was referring to for profit. Should have specified. I’m used to using that when meta screws over their users.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Alright, I'll bite, what's the FOSS endgame?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Lately it's been companies using liberal licenses to build their product up really fast and then doing a rig pull bcz "oh no we can't have competition!".

But it's also from the user perspective... Freedom to not pay a lonely dev that's been coding on the project for "fun" or "for the community" for 15 years.

I love free software, but if y:all want it to succeed you need to support the devs!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

It's time for a federated version. How about "OutOfMemory"? It would fit because I always return to the same topics on StackOverflow.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Stack Overflow, technically a neutral term. Idk though whether the name in such a context would violate any trademark laws even if it's a non-profit platform.

Snack Overflow

Nullpointer Exception

Access Violation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

RubberDuckHaven

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Syntax Error

Page Not Found

Random Access

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Segmentation fault

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And so the enshitification continues...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I bet its related to the continuous need to liquidate resources to support the proxy war effort. You can't print money withour offering some value.

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