this post was submitted on 11 May 2024

2316 points (98.1% liked)

Science Memes

10970 readers

2104 users here now

Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!

A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.

Rules

Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.
Keep it rooted (on topic).
No spam.
Infographics welcome, get schooled.

This is a science community. We use the Dawkins definition of meme.

Research Committee

[email protected]

Other Mander Communities

Science and Research

Biology and Life Sciences

Physical Sciences

Humanities and Social Sciences

Practical and Applied Sciences

Memes

Miscellaneous

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

2316

Never Forget (mander.xyz)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

184 comments fedilink hide all child comments

(page 2) 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago (3 children)

He didn't transfer or share he only downloaded.

load more comments (3 replies)

[–] [email protected] 161 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Shout out to Alexandra elbakyan. She continues part of aaron's work by running sci-hub and libgen, but lives safely out of reach of the american criminal "justice" system 💔

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

This is like the Oliver Stone science meme kind of fact.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 months ago (1 children)

i would say jstor are cunts, but actually it's the US government that were being cunts here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Law Enforcement and the Justice System have every responsibility to enforce laws as they were written, JSTOR pressed charges and the US Government offered Auron a plea deal to reduce his sentence to 6 months.

Definitely an argument about the inadequacy of US Healthcare to be made here, though. Auron clearly could have used some counseling.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago

and the US government was almost definitely trying to make an example out of him: literally anybody who read the case details whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought there was a prosecutor who pursued this beyond all reasonable bounds, making Aaron's life a living hell and driving him to suicide?

[+] [email protected] -20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Well if a Psychologist had helped him through it maybe he could have turned around and sued that prosecutor into disbarment.

EDIT: People are downvoting this, but TBH I wouldn't kill myself over a 35 year sentence much less the 6 months in the plea deal this guy got. Wouldn't consider it for a single moment. He had agency in his own actions.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

yeah and maybe that prosecutor is tangentially responsible for his suicide now.

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I never heard of this guy before today. What a goat RIP AARON SCHWARTZ

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

He was one of the inventors of Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

There's a good behind the bastards episode on him (a good guy holiday episode; he's not a bastard)

[–] [email protected] 100 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's not exactly what happened.

Aaron committed suicide before his case went to trial, and so he was never convicted let alone sentenced. 35 years was never even likely; had it gone to trial there's every reason to think he'd have been acquitted outright, or at worst given a slap on the wrist. Not that he should have even been charged, of course.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Well now I’ve got two competing claims, and I can’t believe either one until I see the authoritative history on it

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There's a documentary on YouTube called "The internet's own boy", if you want to learn more. Basically, he was offered a 6 month plea, but he would be a convicted felon, and basic logic/morality tells you that you shouldn't plead guilty to a crime that you didn't commit. However, the justice system is very imperfect, and often people plead guilty for reduced sentencing even if they're not guilty. He stood on principle until his legs gave out. they were already in millions spent in attorney fees. Not a shred of justice can be found in how Aaron's story ended.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago

https://web.archive.org/web/20140721052709/http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/01/14/mit-hacking-case-lawyer-says-aaron-swartz-was-offered-plea-deal-six-months-behind-bars/hQt8sQI64tnV6FAd7CLcTJ/story.html

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

The weirdest shit about this is that JSTOR apparently has a very expansive social media presence.

They have an official Tumblr account.

I had to follow it out of morbid curiosity.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The most infuriating thing was and still is the fact that some people justify the sentence and blame him for killing himself.

load more comments