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submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

bits are not bugs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

This is propaganda he got sucicided. And he didnt transfer or share scientific articles he simply downloaded them thats all. This poat is extremely damaging as its almost correct juat slightly shifting the commonly accepted reality of history. This is not the first time I've seen posts about him here doing a simmillar thing this raises the question who's trying to rewrite history and what for?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

There's a reason the EU doesn't extradite their citizens to the US: the justice system is considered inhumane.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Frankly, I don't think that was enough to make Aaron commit suicide. However, having close relations like Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian completely turn sour and blame him probably did, and I'm akin to believe they know what they did given how hard they doubled down on "well, Aaron really wasn't that great of a guy" narrative.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago

Judicially murdered by Carmen Ortiz.

[+] [email protected] -21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Please don’t spread misinformation.

Edit: Why is anyone downvoting this? The text is inaccurate and should not be posted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Rocking up to a popular conversation, and saying this is wrong, but not providing what you consider correct. Is a great way to not be a contributing member of society.

Requiring people to have a 15 message subthread to figure out what you meant from your first comment is very unhelpful

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I thought it was pretty obvious, since there is so little actual content in the post, but I guess you're right. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What about this is misinformation?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is not true that he was sentenced to 35 years in prison by US authorities for transferring and sharing scientific articles from JSTOR. It is true that he killed himself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

After googling it it seems he was charged and those were the estimate of years if convicted so

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Looks likely he would have been convicted, especially considering the whole suicide thing??

Basically the same thing, calling it misinformation implies its creating a perception of the incident that is unwarranted, where I would disagree that the distinction has any merit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I am genuinely disappointed that on an ostensibly science-related message board I see comments along the lines “this isn’t actually true, but it kinda-sorta is, therefore, inaccurate claims somehow aren't misinformation”. If all kinds of counter-factual things were true, then all kinds of things would be true: what is the point of this hand-waving to defend something that is riddled with untruths? Also, with whom did he purportedly share these documents? In 22 words, this person got no fewer than two things wrong and you are carrying water for what reason?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Law is not science, it's politics. This is a political distinction, not a matter of the laws of reality

Their comment wasn't a dissertation, i didn't expect extreme precision, I'm defending the spirit in which I believe that comment was posted, because I agree with it, simple as

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was wrong and it should be not wrong. Odd that that is a controversial statement and that you used Reddit-level reasoning about a dissertation when someone just wants others to not spread untruths.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don't disagree it should have been phrased more accurately. The truest version is always the best, OP should probably add an edit to add that he wasn't sentenced he was charged with crimes that would result in that, however, The point of this post was not the legal distinction between charged and convicted

I think the detail you're arguing about is about as impactful as what color shirt someone was wearing in an otherwise true account of history.

I'm not endorsing misinforming people, thank you for correcting that bit of information, its does not change the essence of why this information is being shared or the conclusion it brings us to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

With whom did he share these documents?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You can't make a claim like that without elaborating why you think it's misinormation [SIC].

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

It makes two claims and he did commit suicide. Also, my keyboard is broken. :/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It didn't get to trial if I remember right. He definitely wasn't sentenced.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

According to a quick read on Wikipedia, you are right. He was charged, But not sentenced.

On January 6, 2011, Swartz was arrested by Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) police on state breaking-and-entering charges, after connecting a computer to the MIT network in an unmarked and unlocked closet and setting it to download academic journal articles systematically from JSTOR using a guest user account issued to him by MIT.[15][16] Federal prosecutors, led by Carmen Ortiz, later charged him with two counts of wire fraud and eleven violations of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act,[17] carrying a cumulative maximum penalty of $1 million in fines, 35 years in prison, asset forfeiture, restitution, and supervised release.[18] Swartz declined a plea bargain under which he would have served six months in federal prison.[19] Two days after the prosecution rejected a counter-offer by Swartz, he was found dead in his Brooklyn apartment.[20][21]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz

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