this post was submitted on 06 May 2024
571 points (97.0% liked)

Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ

54539 readers
195 users here now

⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.

Rules • Full Version

1. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy

2. Don't request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote

3. Don't request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs

4. Don't submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others



Loot, Pillage, & Plunder

📜 c/Piracy Wiki (Community Edition):


💰 Please help cover server costs.

Ko-Fi Liberapay
Ko-fi Liberapay

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And that didn't make sense in this case, almost no one pirates games with online multiplayer, even if it has a single-player mode

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

Bootlickers are the worst

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

It’s not that hard to understand:

Development of games requires resources. More resources trends with better games (coin flip). If every player pays, the game development gets the best possible quality. And artists get to keep their electricity bill paid for the week.

Denuvo argues that their product guarantees the most resource extraction possible. This is debatable, and I personally lean on the side that it’s not as effective for revenue collection as advertised.

Nobody got rich being honest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Highly likely it is a bot

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

That seems to be written by a child.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago

Imagine simping for a billion-dollar corporation. I mean, I love Sony games, Uncharted, Horizon, Spider-Man, but I am not going to defend them. Their lives must be really awesome, if they stoop to simping to a corporation.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Damn. Consumerism really rots your brain, doesn't it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if they would still hold that opinion if they were locked out of a game they paid $70 for, while the ones that got it for "free" can play it without any restrictions. Piracy is just as much a service issue as it is a money issue.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They already are throwing punches because they noticed people being less gullible than them. I'm guessing this would result in a "double down", like "The developers wouldn't have to kill this game if the pirates would have bought it."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't referring to games being shut down. I was referring to how denuvo stops you from playing the game if it has issues phoning home for whatever reason. My hatred for denuvo began when it locked me out of monster hunter for 24 hours the one time I wanted to come back to playing it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Ah, well, same spiel though. Also, fuck Denuvo.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

This dude woke up and decided, blood.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago

This just seems like an average troll. If the goal is to make everyone angry, it makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"I paid $70 on console and they got it on PC for free!"

Hold off buying games for a while and you'll be able to get them ALL for free on your new gaming PC!

(How many games would they have to not buy? 15? 20?)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

15 games for $70 are enough to save $1000, which is definitely enough for a good gaming PC. After buying a PS5 and the cheapest PS Plus subscription, paid yearly (cause that's the cheapest option per month) for a little more than 8 years, you're also at $1000. With the most expensive PS Plus option it would only take a little more than 4 years.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

In case anyone actually wants to know a couple of reasons

A) It's not fair that some people pay and some don't. (Of course it's also not fair that some can afford $70 on a video game and some struggle to buy food)

B) If everyone would pay then we'd all only have to pay $50 each, lowering the price for those that are paying $70 at the moment. (Whether developers would lower prices or just make more money is another question)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Thanks for trying to bring an alternative perspective to the table.

Neither argument is very compelling. A) is like "if I can't have nice things, no one can", and think about those arguments against loan forgiveness or healthcare. B) is wishful thinking game companies will charge what people are willing to pay no matter how many copies are sold. And unlike physical goods, the cost per digital license doesn't really much if more copies are sold so expected sales volume doesn't affect costs much in that sense. Piracy itself also doesn't incur any cost (other than mythical lost sales), while Denuvo and other anti circumvention technology does.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Naïveté. Its not devs that set the price. Publishers do not have your best interests in mind. They will always choose to make more money. They don't give a fuck about literally anything else.

The prices will never be lower. Purchasing no longer grants ownership. This is why piracy is justified in a lot of cases.

Support devs that respect the community. Steal from those that don't. Or even better, don't play games whose publishers treat the community like shit.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They'll literally never lower prices. Look at what prices for everything are right now. Their excuse was that covid was driving up prices, now that covid is over they realized they could charge more so here we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

750$ worth of dlcs that should had been features from the start anyone?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

So self-delusion?

load more comments
view more: next ›