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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Police weren't happy about gay pride back in the 1970s and it seems they haven't really evolved since then.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Nevo said some people forgot the darker history of how pride marching began in the 1970s in Australia.

This is shit reporting. You don't drop that and provide no context — the context is that cops were historically extremely corrupt and homophobic; barely investigating most "gay bashings", murders, and rapes among the community; with the police often being the perpetrators themselves.

Australian cops are far less racist, homophobic, and discriminatory today, but still have a long way to go.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"gay bashings"

We had a different adjective in the 80s. Can't say it now, offends people. But the word packs more punch, more hate, more meaning. But we dast not say it. Might offend people, can't have that. Even in service of history that might make folks feel the truth of those times.

Ban incoming for uncomfortable words... (that my gay friends called themselves in the day...)

We called it "fag bashing". For you kids that weren't around, it meant dudes cruising gay bars and beating the living shit out of men who dared step outside.

Sorry y'all, but "gay bashing" is too wimpy for me. Kinda like calling lynchings "black fights". Those times were fucking awful, let's not water down the words used.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Whole buncha motherfuckers in this thread need to watch deep water: the real story and get a taste of what it was like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So who's protesting what and why and why were the cops attacked?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Cops don't belong at pride events wearing the uniforms traditionally used to kick the shit out of the community

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

"But protesters said police shouldn't be allowed to participate in the event given why people began protesting in the 1970s."

Ok so cops today get paint thrown at them for events that happened 40 or 50 years ago? That doesn't seem reasonable to me. Some police today weren't even born when this stuff happened, but they nonetheless get punished away?

I really do think this sins of the father stuff has to stop. This is exactly how centuries long feuds between groups of people keep going. And the idea of collective punishment is an appalling doctrine which is what this kind of stuff amounts to as well.

On a practical level, punishing police who support lgbt is not helpful and will do nothing to stamp out those pockets of police that are still problematic.

And above all else, uniform aside these are individuals and should be treated with respect. Just seeing the uniform and nothing else really is dehumanising.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
  1. They are not the "sins of the fathers" Police are still doing very real harm to the community.

  2. You're not "supporting LGBT" if the first thing you do when something you don't like happens is start attacking them physically and in the press.

Most people couldn't give a shit if someone employed as a police officer went full bore ham at pride. It's the marching in uniform that is the big fucking issue. This could have been avoided. It could have been acknowledged as a bad idea. People have not been subtle about "We do not want uniformed police officers acting like we are their PR machine" for literal years now. But they went ahead anyway in defiance of all logic and sentiment, shit happened and now it's OHH THE ABHORRENTSSSSSSSSSS

It is not. helping. matters. And they have to see that - so why do they keep persisting?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They were protesting the police marching in the pride parade

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The police marching at Pride or the protesters?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

Police are a bunch of bastards so fuck what they think.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Chief Commissioner Shane Patton, who participated in the march, called the group of up to 50 people "an ugly rabble".

He said there was a premeditated decision to throw paint at police participating in the event in St Kilda.

Chief Commissioner Patton said the 100 unarmed members taking part showed restraint and he has "nothing but contempt" for the group.

"Our intention was literally just to walk in front of them, so that it would be raised awareness that we rejected police in midsummer."

Nevo, who uses they/them pronouns, said many of those taking part in today's protest disagree with allowing police to participate in the march.

Nevo said some people forgot the darker history of how pride marching began in the 1970s in Australia.


The original article contains 378 words, the summary contains 125 words. Saved 67%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

bad bot holy shit that's an awful truncation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Not great grammar but gets the content across seems fine to me