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It's difficult to make a decision between two bad choices. (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I'm legit confused

The grey guy on the left is all the shills on Lemmy pretending that not voting for Biden is helping the Palestinians, and saying they care so much about Gaza that they don't want to vote for Biden

And the guy on the right is pointing out that not voting for Biden will make things ten times worse for the Palestinians (as it will for many other people the world over)

Right?

Based on who OP is, I don't think that's what they meant, but that is for real the only semicoherent interpretation of this meme I can come up with

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If you had to choose between continuing shipments to Israel or Biden winning the 2024 election what would you choose?

Purely hypothetical question here. Any similarities to reality are purely circumstantial.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, they've been shipping weapons to Israel under Biden so your question is kinda moot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Are you unable to make a decision?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Is this a trick question, or a joke I'm not understanding or something?

I would choose Biden winning in 2024 and no continuing weapons shipments to Israel.

As would like 90% of Lemmy as far as I can tell.

What am I missing?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

As would like 99% of Lemmy as far as I can tell.

Ehhh maybe 60%.

What am I missing?

Pose this question around here and there. It's ridiculously funny how many people cannot answer it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

As would like 99% of Lemmy as far as I can tell.

Ehhh maybe 60%.

I edited it down to 90%. I think there's about 10% who misunderstand Biden's domestic policies enough that they think he's been destructive to unions or something, and so they feel reluctant to say they want him to win even against a clear catastrophe.

Do you honestly think there are a bunch of people (40% or 4% or 0.4%) on Lemmy who like weapons shipments to Israel? What are you basing this on? I've seen one person on Mastodon who seemed like they'd bought into a lot of the propaganda that discredits news about what's happening to the Palestinians, and honestly believed the IDF was fighting a normal lawful war against armed opponents. That one person represents probably about 0.1% or less of the accounts I've interacted with; I have not seen any other person who I think would be in favor of aid to Israel.

But that is my experience; maybe I am missing something.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (15 children)

Check my comment history where I've asked this question. You'll see several examples of people:

Dipping out and never answering.
Making up a third choice.
Telling me that real life doesn't have such binary choices.

Honestly I think because it’s just a sort of disorienting question. Ask “Do you want aid to Israel?” and I think you’ll see more of a unanimous consensus than you could achieve on almost any other issue.

Fair enough that may be true. I'll keep toying with the language and see if it makes a noticeable difference.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, it is a counterfactual question in a way that makes people want to take a step back from it instead of just buying into the premise and giving a straight answer. The likely outcomes are Biden + aid for Israel, or Trump + aid for Israel, so separating Biden from aid to Israel sort of comes across like a non sequitur.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Shipping weapons to Israel, or Trump and shipping weapons to Israel.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think you borked your own meme there homie. Second panel, I think you meant to say Ukraine, not Biden.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Are you unable to make a choice between shipping weapons to Israel or Biden winning the 2024 election?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But... Biden is shipping weapons to Israel?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hypothetically if you had to choose between shipping weapons to Israel or Biden winning the 2024 election which would you choose?

Purely hypothetical here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'll bite.

I would choose Biden winning.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

By refusing one of the options you have chosen to keep shipping weapons to Israel and Biden loses the 2024 election in this purely hypothetical situation.