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  • Rabbit R1 AI box is actually an Android app in a limited $200 box, running on AOSP without Google Play.
  • Rabbit Inc. is unhappy about details of its tech stack being public, threatening action against unauthorized emulators.
  • AOSP is a logical choice for mobile hardware as it provides essential functionalities without the need for Google Play.
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I would like to run the apk, anyone got the app download?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

This is the business equivalent of throwing a tantrum.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (3 children)

their page to link accounts to it was not a real webapp, it was a novnc page that would connect to an ubuntu vm that runs chrome with no sandboxing and basic password store under fluxbox wm

someone dumped the home directory from it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, that's actually hilarious, I imagine someone would have noticed when their paste/auto type password managers didn't work

For those confused, this sounds like instead of making a real website, they spin up a vm, embed a remote desktop tool into their website and have you login through chrome running on their VM, this is sooooo sketch it, its unreal anyone would use this in a public product.

Imagine if to sign into facebook from an app, you had to go to someone else's computer, login and save your credentials on their PC, would that be a good idea?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What I don’t understand is why. This sounds like way more work than spinning up some out-of-the-box framework with oAuth or a Google login and hosting it on Lambda or Azure. What is logging in on a VM box even going to do for the device?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I've looked it up and it's even uglier and I can kinda understand why they did it this way Basically, for their "integrations" they aren't using any official APIs. Instead they just use the websites and automate them via the Playwright framework. So for each user they have a VM running with a Chrome browser to access the services. So now they have the problem that they need to get their users session cookies into the browser. And the easiest solution for that is having the users access their VM via VNC and just log into the automated browser.
This is such a hacky solution that I'm actually in awe of it's shittiness. That's something you throw together in an all-nighter during a Hackathon, not a production ready solution

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I wish I knew what any of this meant…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The "login" was actually a browser based remote access tool. You were signing in on a machine on there network running Chrome.

Someone dumped the contents of that machine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It basically implies that they cobbled together some standard technology but they didn't even put it together very well.

It's like a solution that's held in place with chewing gum and Band-Aids.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Well that's horrific.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

lmao threatening action against their own imminent irrelevance, more like

Not cool guys, not cool at all

And get serious - fuck your "proprietary" details, fuck lying/misrepresentation for money, and fuck you for trying a stunt like this.

Call me when you actually put the genie in the bottle!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Ubuntu is just a bunch of apps running on Debian! Did you know you can take Ubuntu app .deb files and run them on Debian?

Look. The R1 is stupid, but this isn't the reason why.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

The difference here is Ubuntu is open about the fact that stand on the shoulders of something greater than them.

R1 in contrast pretend that everything they've built is proprietary, and therefore no one could possibly come up with something similar.

When it's clearly not the case.

This is critical, not for the purpose of sales, but for the purpose of retaining investor value.

The whole thing reeks of an exercise to generate artificial investor value.

If investors find out that their so-called innovation can actually be done by anyone with some coding skills and connectivity to open AI, then the company value will drop like a hot turd.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What? .deb aren't app files they are debian packages

What are you talking about? The article didn't mention Ubuntu once

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Apk literally stands for Android package. I'm making an analogy. 🤦

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Ubuntu is a piece of software. R1 is supposedly a piece of hardware that runs "Rabbit OS".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Such a bad comparison. In the case of Debian and Ubuntu apps you run both apps on your hardware you already have. In case of rabbit, you could just run app on your phone instead of buying rabbit. Rabbit does not offer anything more than their app does when installed on android phone. It's even better on android phone because phone is faster.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

•Rabbit Inc. is unhappy about details of its tech stack being public, threatening action against unauthorized emulators.

All android devices are "emulators" like their hardware isn't special

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, isn't all software just an app that runs on hardware?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Next you're going to tell me that lemmy is one of these dirty dirty apps

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Nahhh, not as dirty as Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Lemmy is a dirty, dirty app, but that's not why!

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