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Musk Secretly Used Starlink to Foil Ukrainian Drone Attack on Russian Ships
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Arrest this treasonous scumbag. Slava Ukraini!
this post was submitted on 07 Sep 2023
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As much as I despise Musk for being a total piece of shit, this isn't treason. Technically, we aren't even allies with Ukraine. The argument could certainly be made that this works against the interests of the United States, but that alone isn't treason because it isn't a crime for citizens to oppose the US, especially when it's private property the US is being lent. Because at that time, the US hadn't signed a contract with Musk yet.
If he did this again, then it would be a breach of contract, but still wouldn't be treason. People being charged with treason is very rare, because it's a such a high bar to meet.
This guy aided the Kremlin. He's helping russians in their genocide of Ukrainian children. Fuck that pile of shit and lock him up.
I agree. I'm just saying, he's not guilty of treason.
I never claimed he was. But he's guilty of being an ally of russia
arrest this treasonous scumbag
You literally just did
I accused him of being treasonous -- which he ABSOLUTELY IS. End of discussion.
No he's not by definition. He isn't Ukrainian so he can't commit treason against the Ukrainian people. He didn't commit any treasonous acts against the US or our allies here either (Ukraine is not an US ally last I checked).
I despise Musk and pretty much everything he stands for. I think it's borderline societal insanity to allow private industry to put satellites in space and think it takes a certain kind of awful megalomaniac to think they can control that infrastructure single handedly. But saying he's treasonous for this? That cheapens the word when you use it against people that ARE treasonous. For instance when certain ex-Presidents decide to steal classified documents despite numerous warnings...
I didn't say he was a traitor. I said he is treasonous in his actions. Please, people -- There is a difference. And BTW, Musk's actions, by assisting a terrorist regime currently trying to commit a genocide upon a country of people, are equally as treasonous to anything trump has done.
treason (noun): The betrayal of allegiance toward one's own country, especially by committing hostile acts against it or aiding its enemies in committing such acts.
You can't commit treason against a country if you aren't a citizen of that country by definition.
Treasonous. Learn to read, musk-lover
treasonous (adjective): involving or guilty of the crime of betraying one's country.
Yes. Assisting the enemy is treasonous
literally just use a different word it's not a big deal
No.
Why are enemies of the United States allowed to own national security infrastructure?
They are allowed to be president and run for re-election too so I wouldn't hold my breath
I don't think Musk qualifies, being South African though.
Isn't it illegal to screw with the military actions of the U.S. ... and its allies?!!?
I don't think what he did was illegal per se, but he is definitely positioning himself against US geopolitical interests, which is a really bad idea if you are a US citizen, living in the United States. If he were to give away any military secrets that pass through star link, which I'm sure Russia will inevitably ask him to do, he will get arrested for espionage. He should tread very carefully.
Poor people get arrested. Rich people get to walk free and then get a slap on the wrist.
Trump got arrested so will Musk if he fucks around
Yet he’s taking DoD money for Starlink in Ukraine. At what point do his antics turn from the craziness of a billionaire to espionage and being deemed a Russian asset?
Musk openly stated that he spoke directly with Putin after the Ukraine invasion had started. The super wealthy have no loyalties and will sell anyone and anything to the highest bidder. I've said it before, every penny after $1 billion needs to be taxed at 100%. Time to reign in the oligarchs.
Is that just liquid assets, or do you also want to tax them on stock they own in companies?
Honestly I don't know. It's really more the sentiment that I'm expressing. I'm aware that the wealthy are very good at playing shell games. No measures would catch everything.
Wealth taxes are fantastic in theory, but in practice have never worked. They're too hard to implement. I agree with the spirit of what you're saying, but I just don't think a wealth tax is the answer.
Agree in principle but the ultra wealthy would simply find new creative ways to hide their income.