I feel Mint doesn't need a Matrix client, IPTV client etc. pre-installed, but luckily you can easily remove those unlike some other OS's
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I wish they went with XMPP. Still cool though.
Green Ubuntu go brrrrr
Green Ubuntu is Best Ubuntu
it really is and i been liking green Debian as well.
I've been thinking of switching to Green Debian... It doesn't sound like there's all that much difference, anything you found missing or was it pretty much same enough?
Green Debian didn't like displaying things on my laptop's Nvidea chip. On my desktop with an AMD card, Green Debian runs flawlessly. No terminal transparency, though, but that's not really a problem for me.
Same as Debian but with pre-installed firmware, and other stuff. also the desktop GUI gets updates and it has backports enabled by default.
Why have preinstalled apps though? Hear me out... i am very new to Linux and enjoying it quite much.
But most of the preinstalled programs that came with mint, i have not touched and never will.
Because when interacting with other people to do something together it is more convenient not having to encourage them to install something. Like preinstalled Magic Wormhole for file sharing or something for remote desktop. FTP client is a must. Chat is nice to have.
I use Arch btw.
Im not convinced.
But i guess i never will. Just yesterday i needed an ftp client. I went to the software manager to down had it and realised it was already preinstalled.
It saves me maybe 8 sec?
Some will use the built in note editor, some the built in music player, some the built in video player, and now some will use matrix
Mint isn't overly bloated, or even "bloated", these apps are useful for a decent part of the demographic, and having them preinstalled lowers the friction a new user feels when installing a new OS
Why have preinstalled apps though?
To make it easier for people.
Why not use Beeper?
I like beeper, but it forces you to use a beeper.com account, and the mint devs couldn't make it autojoin the support room
You can. It just would not be good as preinstalled thing. Operating systems should not preinstall anything tethered to one server in my opinion.
I was trying to think of what the impactful differences between IRC and Matrix are (it's been a while).
“While being as open as IRC, Matrix provides a user experience which is similar to Slack or Discord to some extent. It’s modern, it’s persistent, and […] it’s actually less confusing to newcomers than an extremely simple application like Jargonaut.”
Persistancy! It's funny how that completely slipped my mind. The expectation from a chat room app has changed a lot since I last regularly used IRC and I guess I forgot what it used to be like.
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