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I've tried to see if this is real but I fail to find any source code leaks for Vanguard or if it has ever been leaked. The poster himself also doesn't seem that credible unless your definition of credible is "THE TERROR OF RIOT GAMES".
Am I missing something or is this post likely just bullshit?
Which games use Vanguard?
Valorant, as of right now. I don’t think any other games use it.
League of Legends recently adopted it.
League of Legends I think just started using it as well, breaking it's linux support.
Didn't it just roll out to league of legends?
Many people criticize that, but I can't really think of any non invasive solution to draw away cheaters, except making specialized device to play the game (sort of PS4 to play one single game only?), but pretty sure it won't take long for cheat providers to crack it as well... Sadly.
Kernel anticheat also doesn't work, Valorant is full of cheaters, and Apex Legends players had their game remotely hacked installing cheat software mid tournament match. And an increasing number of cheats bypass the computer/console all together, and replace inputs to the computer to allow macros or aim-botting. Recently a monitor was announced for league of legends that will track enemy players movement and location for you from the video feed alone.
The best way to prevent cheating are with good server side anticheat. Another possibility is that companies can offer secure computers through a live streaming service like Geforce Now, which would be more secure than kernel anticheat without any of the privacy issues.
but I can't really think of any non invasive solution to draw away cheaters
Server-Side Anticheat. The Minecraft community has been doing it ALL ON THEIR OWN for YEARS, effectively.
server side anticheat is the only ultimate solution.
all client side anticheat measures will have vulnerabilities that will be found and people will cheat. (look at DMA pci cards, for instance)
Imagine being treated like this just to play a fucking game...
Intriguing.
I don't have any games that use Vanguard, but if I did, I'd be queuing them up for some TLS interception and analysis.
There should be laws against this everywhere (with other forms of data collection included). There's no way preventing cheating is more important than the fundamental rights to security and privacy.
There is, this could have the potential to collect PII and its %100 they're not storing this as encrypted data on their side. So it is %100 illegal to do, now if they're fined for it is a different story.
The screenshots are awful, but your statement is pure speculation, and likely just wrong. It's pretty easy to encrypt images.
Even if encrypted this doesn't sound like something compatible with the GDPR.
It depends. There's 2 different methods that I don't think they're doing that would make it legal:
Explicitly tell the user what data the anti-cheat collects when you install it, and what other companies have access to it.
Anonymize the data. Crop the screenshots in storage media to just the game screen, and have a list of which games need what sections of the screen blurred to remove usernames.
The first is far more useful for them than the second, but it also undermines it's functionality as an anti-cheat because you're telling the cheat creators what to guard against.
Of course, the real answer here is stop doing user-side anti-cheat at all, do it server-side, and trust nothing the client says. That's more difficult than user-side, but it also has the benefit of working, while also respecting the user's privacy.
Every time you play a game that uses vanguard or every time you play any game?
Both are bad, but one is way worse
I don’t play Valorant, so I can’t say. I do know, however, that it runs as a Windows service, so it’s always on and always keeping an eye on your system.
Yeah BC why shouldn't they know you enjoy Asian ladies with big titties!
You aint got nothing to hide, or do you?!