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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Good for you America. Its usually the UE pursuing this kind of corporate bullshit, but i must admit is good to see a case where the fine equals the full amount of revenue scammed. It should be twice, or x10 times more if u ask, and even jail time for those responsible because that still feels too cheap for playing with people lives and fear, but its something.

Who would have tought we only needed a global pandemic and thousands of deaths to start getting (some) our shit together

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

Shoutout to Naomi Wu for going after them hard over this back during the height of the pandemic. Let's not forget about her and the fact that she's been muzzled by China.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

if only wall street fines from the SEC were like this...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

So many piss-poor masks were sold during the pandemic.

Poundland still have them for sale, and they're marketed as "fashion masks" to avoid any legal trouble.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

110% seems like it could be a middle ground between actually nuking the company into the ground vs. impose to little of a fine.

They're forced to give every cent back (hopefully that can find its way into actual customers hands instead of the government pissing it away) plus lose an additional 10% of whatever they made that is now a loss on the company financials. Shareholders wouldn't like a loss on their spreadsheets and quickly fire whoever was in charge or sell. It's bad for the business, the stock market, and the economy.

It would quickly train the stock market to deter that kind of behaviour. But we need politicians who are not bought by these companies to be able to pose these strong fines across the board.

10% loss on something on the scale of the likes of what someone like Apple or cough Tesla cough brings in on products would add up very, very quickly. More money back into people's products going back into the economy in the form of more spending anyway, which is good, and more tax revenue that the government might one day learn how to spend efficiently and dilligantly, since the government would keep the 10% loss, I'm sure getting that 110% out of the company takes work, time, and spending anyway.

Capitalism only works with extremely tight regulation. And humans can corrupt that regulation very quickly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yea this time 10% equals 100k which might as well be nothing in the scheme of things. It might hurt Razer but they can probably eat it since this mask wouldn’t have been a large part of their revenue compared to the 40 other products they make and sell a lot of. I still like to see this type of punishment being filled out and hope it is used against some of the larger flagrant frauds you mentioned

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I don't disagree with your overall argument but, if they're fined 100% of revenue, that's way less than zero profit (because they've still paid to make, distribute, and recall the things).

Fines should, of course, always be more than the profit made. 3x is a good number.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"However, the proposed settlement against Razer includes a $100,000 civil penalty, plus $1,071,254.33, which the FTC said is equal to the amount of revenue Razer made from the Zephyr and will go toward refunding "defrauded consumers."

Fucking. Yes. The money goes back to the customers. Hopefully, every last cent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

"go toward" doing some heavy lifting there. Watch them get a few bucks each and the rest goes towards legal fees.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the proposed settlement against Razer includes a $100,000 civil penalty, plus $1,071,254.33, which the FTC said is equal to the amount of revenue Razer made from the Zephyr

Cool, next do Exxon, OxyContin, Marlboro...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Yesssssss. I love revenue-based punishments for these companies!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Someone will probably try to sell theirs on eBay.

looks

rolls eyes

Well, apparently yes, and also because now that Razer isn't selling them, the going price appears to be up to about $250.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=razer+zephyr&_sacat=0

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Definitely had that on my bingo card.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I could potentially see a market for these for shy streamers if they put a mic inside so you could use it while you game.

Otherwise, why?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

googles

It looks like they were originally going to have a mic, then dropped it. It apparently has ventillation fans, a battery....and looking at its box, apparently Bluetooth support, though damned if I know what they use Bluetooth support for on a facemask.

EDIT: Ah.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/21/22726468/razer-zephyr-face-mask-available-features-design-safety

The Zephyr can be operated entirely by its built-in buttons, but it also supports Bluetooth connectivity to control its RGB lights via the Zephyr app for Android and iOS.

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