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A California law banning the carrying of firearms in most public places is blocked again (apnews.com)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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LOS ANGELES (AP) — A new California law that bans people from carrying firearms in most public places was once again blocked from taking effect Saturday as a court case challenging it continues.

A 9th Circuit Court of Appeals panel dissolved a temporary hold on a lower court injunction blocking the law. The hold was issued by a different 9th Circuit panel and had allowed the law to go into effect Jan. 1.

Saturday’s decision keeps in place a Dec. 20 ruling by U.S. District Judge Cormac Carney blocking the law. Carney said that it violates the Second Amendment and that gun rights groups would likely prevail in proving it unconstitutional.

The law, signed by Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom, prohibits people from carrying concealed guns in 26 types of places including public parks and playgrounds, churches, banks and zoos. The ban applies regardless of whether a person has a concealed carry permit.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

A policeman sees a drunk man searching for something under a streetlight and asks what the drunk has lost. He says he lost his keys and they both look under the streetlight together. After a few minutes the policeman asks if he is sure he lost them here, and the drunk replies, no, and that he lost them in the park. The policeman asks why he is searching here, and the drunk replies, "this is where the light is".

Concealed-carry permit holders aren't the ones who commit gun crimes, but because they're the ones who actually follow the law, they're the ones that are targeted by these draconian rules.

In California, no shooting by a CCW holder has ever occurred at an existing protected location or one proposed by SB 2. In fact, concealedcarrykillers.org lists just 5 homicides having been committed by CCW holders in California in the last 24 years.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

draconian laws

If the US has shown the world one thing then it is that the only rule that will really work is an absolute no-exception ban on firearms.

Eric and Dylan have been dead for what, 20 years now, and what has changed? It. Got. Worse. They were amateurs compared to what followed. The Las Vegas shooting was beyond amazing and would have been prevented if weapons like these are only available on the black market for a million dollar with bullets costing 1000 bucks a pop. The crazies won't be able to afford it and the very VERY few criminals that can afford guns and want to take that risk won't be crazy enough to start shooting around at random innocent citizens and or bystanders.

This shit only happens when weapons (and more importantly, bullets) are available freely and CHEAPLY.

At this point, I'd say the US has had their chance.

This entire "but we need weapons to overthrow evil governments!" claim is absolute horse shit, exhibit A being the day before yesterday, a year ago... Those same idiots always parrotting about overthrowing evil governments trying to overthrow a legitimate government so that they can install a dictatorship.

The US has shown the world year after year that it's citizens cannot responsibly handle firearms, period. Yes, I know, guns are cool toys, BUT FUCKING CHILDREN ARE DYING BY THE THOUSANDS.

Sucks for those few that are responsible, you can thank all the incels and what not, but you won't be able to shoot them for what they did, we'll be taking those guns, thank you.

PROHIBIT ALL GUNS IN THE US

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So draconian that I don't want someone to bring a gun to a public playground or the fucking zoo.

no shooting by a CCW holder has ever occurred at an existing protected location

Oh wow maybe the ban works? Noooo it's definitely because you scared idiots carrying weapons around all day are just SO responsible.

Hey you know who's 100% responsible for all gun violence? PEOPLE WITH GUNS.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Subset X of large group Y has committed a negligible amount of crime Y in the last generation."

"NO YOU IDIOT, LARGE GROUP Y DOES ALL OF CRIME Y, JUST THINK!!!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh sorry I forgot only a subset of the people that own a thing made to kill other people actually kill other people. Good point go ahead and bring those guns hidden in your pants to a kids park or whatever. I feel so much safer now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey look, it's the same logic that racists use

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What the fuck? TIL it's racist to think people shouldn't bring guns to the park.

Hey look it's the same logic idiots use.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Imagine being so privileged you don't have to worry about defending yourself or your family.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Gun control is racist

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

~13 people in the US have died from a "shooting"during 8 separate events 7 days into 2024, another ~30 injured.

I'm also not saying state enforced concealed carry bans are the way, but you guys gotta do something.

About half were murder suicides, a quarter were drive-by shootings and the last quarter were bar/party fights.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

How many of those shootings were committed by someone who has a CHL? How many are committed by felons or criminals who are already prohibited from carrying any guns anywhere?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's nuts how weak this California bill was and we can't even that passed. Legit pathetic.

Can't imagine having to raise kids in this country. Parents are brave, not giving a shit about all the legal guns

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

Armed parents are brave, they care about all the illegal guns.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sadly were stuck between "ban guns" and "ban banning guns" with little to no consideration for the underlying issues.

I guess that's too hard a platform to campaign on, though

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Common sense, data and actual arguments? Yes, those are completely useless as a platform since post-factual populism has replaced real politics.