Didn't learn shit from George Floyd I guess
this post was submitted on 26 Apr 2024
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But what if one time they are lying about not being able to breathe and we let them up for a second and then it turns out they really could breathe but just lied.... what about the horrible ramifications of that... we wouldn't want them to have had a single moment of slight relief if it turns out they were just lying right?
Probably better to just find out when they either die or not... who would be able to forgive us if we gave them a slight break and took their word for it that they were about to die.
at this point its ritual human sacrifice by police officers.
As much as the sensationalized headline is trying to make this sound like another George Floyd case the details are different.
It sounds exactly like the George Floyd case.
the whole ethical discussion aside, is it even possible for someone to choke under their own body weight, or die if they lay on their stomach, if they aren't terminally obese or something like that?
legitimately curious, as people are throwing this around like it was normal... is this an American thing?
One detail remains the same: blaming the victim. Sheesh.
Yes, all of those offenses he committed deserved the death penalty, without trial. /s
Bootlicker
he suffocated under his own body weight because he wasn't fit enough to be laid on his stomach
They restricted a man's body until he died. Pretty simple case of murder.
Looks to me like another extrajudicial murder by cops. More similar than different.
At one point the officer jokes: “I’ve always wanted to be in a bar fight. I don’t know if this counts.”
A few things to unpack, right there
I know exactly what the response was.
"If YoU cAn SaY tHaT tHeN yOu CaN bReAtHe"
Good advice for a choking person. Performing the abdominal thrust on someone who could talk has the potential to get the obstruction stuck further and completely blocking their airway.
Not good advice for someone possibly panicking that you are actively smothering.
It's almost like the militarized police force is tortured in a controlled setting as part of their training, so they torture citizens... who aren't trained for torture and are not in a controlled setting.
The video is in the article. The response was "you're good" and a pat on the back. Can't make that shit up.
I was close, but ultimately wrong.
Yeah, solid 8/10 guess.
Ah shit, here we go again
It's like a rerun of that old show Cops, except shittier.
Gave him several doses of Narcan when he obviously had a heart attack, what idiots.
I took it that he suffocated under the weight of his own body. Perhaps complicated by his apparent intoxication.
Way to victim blame a victim of homicide. Wow.
I think it's more likely that he threw a clot from the pin and general insane time he was having, had a heart attack, and was ignored.
Should see the video. 2 cops on his back until heart attack. Same as Floyd. Cop aggression.
Ohio really going for it recently.
Ohioian here
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