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I AM SO DISAPPOINTED WITH UBUNTU 24.04 😡 (news.itsfoss.com)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

For my server I simply switched to Debian and add the packages I need on top, without all that proprietary snap crap.

For desktop I'm tempted to switch to an atomic distro like Fedora Silverblue (Gnome) or Fedora Onyx (Budgie), and for the Steam Deck I'd go with Bazzite.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

Time to move on to the Ubuntu of the Arch stream, Manjaro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Definitely time to just use debian, mint MX, or pop os even. I did a lot of hopping though and I've settled on Nobara KDE. Mint was great but the Bluetooth was finicky for some reason, and debian is mostly just ubuntu with some gui stuff removed. PopOS is basically just debian until COSMIC but still good too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Just go Debian.

Ubuntu used to bring a bit of spit and polish at a time when most Linux distros lacked that. Nowadays it brings nothing worthwhile to the table anymore, it's just brand recognition, but what it does bring is aggravation for experienced users.

I had this realization a few years ago when I found myself fighting against 20.04 and I asked myself: what exactly is Ubuntu doing for me that plain Debian can't? The answer was nothing really, so I moved all my Ubuntu VMs over to Debian Bullseye and never looked back.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

I dont mind snaps but blocking deb installs by default on file clicks is a bad look.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I was a long-time Xubuntu fan, tried Ubuntu directly from canonical for my new laptop.

It's been a bit rocky, all things considered. I think I'm trying something else next time, maybe mint or whatever. Maybe Xubuntu, but only if this snap shit has been cut out.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I don’t get the anger. Just install your software as snaps. What’s the problem?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It's almost like you didn't read the article, because this specific point is addressed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've seen a video where the guy installed steam on Ubuntu 24.04. Of course it was the snap. The guy usually tests distro to see of it's easy to game on it. If the drivers are easy to install, etc...

He usually launches steam, then tests Valheim, Overwatch, Tomb Raider and cyberpunk.

Overwatch didn't launch, cyberpunk neither. Valheim reported that a service didn't launch. Tomb raider was OK.

Then he uninstalled the steam snap and installed the .deb one. Everything worked.

Enforcing packages is already something that people don't appreciate on Linux, enforcing packages that don't work is surprisingly hated.

Ubuntu is supposed to be a distro for beginners, how am I supposed to recommand a distro when I have no confidence the applications will work ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I don’t use Ubuntu myself but I put Zorin on my dad’s computer. He 82 and he doesn’t know what an operating system is. He seems to be able to use it though 🤷

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

mint or manjaro are better anyways

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But how is a new person supposed to know that? Ubuntu is still at the top of many charts. And has years of previous positive reviews.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

i feel like anyone switching os should look a bit into what they entail and then its our responsibility to tell people what is better

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Mint is far better, I usually recommand it. But Ubuntu is still more popular.

I didn't use Manjaro in many years, so I can't judge it. The biggest problem I see with Manjaro is that it has access to AUR.

Manjaro has its own repos, and they take more time to release packages than Arch, which can be a good thing stability wise. But if you have applications from AUR installed then you might have conflicts with the dependencies needed and the dependencies used by the system.

As I said, I didn't use Manjaro in a while, so I don't know if it still a problem. If it is, then it's a shame that the biggest advantage of Arch, the AUR, become that much a risk for the system.

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