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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

These kinds of "morality" laws always have a built-in slippery slope that entrenches police and judicial corruption, see here:

the bill would also impose a minimum seven-year prison sentence for “promoting homosexuality,” which is undefined in the bill (...) While consensual gay sex is not explicitly outlawed under current law in Iraq, vague “morality” clauses in the country’s penal code are routinely used to target LGBTQ+ people (...) who said it was necessary to “preserve the entity of the Iraqi society from deviation and calls for ‘paraphilia’ [abnormal sexual impulses] that have invaded the world.”

First they speak of homosexuality, half an hour later they're speaking about deviant behavior and paraphilias. What does count as any of those though? Practicing anal or oral sex? Having pornographic material? Wearing jeans as a woman, or letting your hair slightly long as a man? The vagueness is the purpose: by declaring a not very well defined enemy, people in positions of relative power (a policeman, a judge, a local governor) are capable of promoting witch-hunts about anyone who makes a faux pas.

Ruining the lives of 5-10% of your society's population is bad enough, but the main purpose of these moves is promoting conformity and entrenching corruption as a means of exerting political power.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Okay why. What's the reason to "kill the gays". This is so unreasonably stupid that it exceeds the bounds of comprehensibility. Even the weirdest takes like "don't let them marry" or "don't let them have kids" I can at least see where they're coming from, I firmly disagree, but I can understand what their take is. But why the actuall fuck do you need to kill them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Projection and self-hate, I can only assume. The Iraqi government must be 100% closeted gays.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Been living under a rock? This is hardly a new idea

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Manbabies with insecurities about their own sexuality is my best guess. Oh, and religion of course, but that goes without saying.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Pretty obvious, gay = bad so they need to get killed. /s

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Inb4 the Russian trolls come here to try and argue this is all Bidens fault and if you vote for him you're literally as bad as the people actively killing gays.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

If Biden didn't want gays being killed he should've never invented homophobia.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe my english is not good enough or your sentence is weird. Are YOU saying its all Bidens fault or are the russian Trolls gonna say it's all Biden fault?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

The russians

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Religion of peace, amirite?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the islamophobia is not really necessary considering right wing governments in a large portion of europe, australia, the us, and canada (the opposition in this case) are all pushing laws criminalising trans and gay people...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But are they chanting "throw the poof off the roof"? Are they willing to take the ultimate step of murdering someone for wanting the love of someone with the same parts as them? Yeah homosexuality is illegal in much of the world and was in most of Europe (even as late as the 60s but to the best of my knowledge, never punishable by death. Yeah Alan Turing went to jail for being gay, and that is inexcusably shitty, but there are different shades of shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

most of those countries are literally trying to eradicate trans people from existence by criminalising medical care...

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago

Just ignore the fact Christians are doing the same thing. It's not an Islamic issue. It's a conservative issue. Muslims in America are predominantly left leaning and their views reflect it. I'm more worried about Christians in America trying to kill me than Muslims. They are more accepting of me here than Christians. My local mosque has a big trans rights flag in protest of our local politicians, and guess who were the ones to get upset about that. I'll give you a hint. It wasn't the people who were worshiping under the trans rights flag.

As a subject of hate born from essentialization, it's bad. Don't do it. Regardless of who you're essentializing. Systemic oppression can only happen with underlying dehumanization that comes from this thinking. Before you say "what about Nazis?", still no. It removes responsibility from them. That was the immediate and obvious excuse the people under Nazi Germany used to absolve themselves when the war ended. It was what was used to excuse the people brought to Western nations under programs like paper clip. They are people. They are just like you. You are capable of becoming just like them. Unless you're willing to accept that, you're much more susceptible to becoming like them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

They're all religions of peace! Until they're in power, of course.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They really want to see another "mission accomplished" banner hanging from a US warship huh? Short memories.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah historically the US has been such a staunch supporter of the community

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