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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago

Spying on the American people is a bipartisan issue.

If you want to change that, you'll need more than votes.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You think the government would ever get rid of powers like these? Of course not!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Joe Biden, while loading a very large gun: "It would be terrible if Donald Trump ever got his hands on this."

Donald Trump, having loaded that same gun 4 years ago: "We have to retake the White House from this far-left communist maniac, because he's going to use that very large gun against White People!"

What a fucking racket.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

People think about Red vs. Blue, but the world is ruled by Purple.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There's an exception to the rule that prohibits spying on religious groups.

Who wants to start an anti-surveillance religion?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think that'll save you.

https://peoplesworld.org/article/hearings-lawsuit-slam-bush-spying-defense/

NBC News obtained a secret 400-page Pentagon document that listed the Truth Project as a “credible threat” to national security. The Pentagon sent an agent to spy on the group’s first meeting at the Quaker Meeting House in Lake Worth in 2004, one of almost four dozen similar meetings nationwide infiltrated on Bush-Cheney orders.

The report revealed that the Defense Department spy operation kept tabs on 1,500 “suspicious incidents” such as distribution of antiwar leaflets at high schools, peace vigils and town hall meetings.

Eight people are active in the Truth Project, Hersh said, including Quakers, a 79-year-old grandmother and Hersh himself, partially disabled by a nerve disease that often confines him to a wheelchair.

Hersh added with a chuckle, “Yes, I guess we are a ‘credible threat.’ The truth is always a threat to those who are lying. We are always a threat to illegitimate and unjust powers.”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

SLAMMIN back in ‘06!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Something like the Tuareg idea of Islam, where you are obligated to kill anyone who eavesdropped on you?

Oh yeah

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

the land of the safe ☺️

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

And the free of the brave 🫡

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You don't have to take your shoes off at the airport anymore if you're willing to tell the government a bunch of stuff about you though!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Imagine if there were actual, tangible concessions for this. I bet if the administration moved to disestablish TSA citing how effective surveillance is, we'd have a lot of very confused celebration and "mission accomplished" banners

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