If Bethesda/MS made a new game, or at least a remake to launch next to the show, they would be making bank right now. Instead they are barely seeing any money from ~5 dollar downloads of a 6 years old game. Lacking strategy/foresight like this is the reason while Sony is eating their lunch in the console game market.
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FALLOUT 4 IS FAR FROM THE GREATEST FALLOUT.
I think most people agree Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas or that fancy blend of both, take the top spots.
FALLOUT 4 IS FAR FROM THE GREATEST FALLOUT.
I don't like the dialog system in Fallout 4 as much as in earlier games in the series, but the first two 3D titles, 3 and New Vegas, are also getting pretty long in the tooth.
When I go back to play a modded Fallout, I do 4.
When I go back to play a modded Fallout, I do 4.
Do so now and be quick, or wait a while. In a few days a huge next-gen update is dropping and everyone expects mods to be broken afterwards unless they are fixed. Since modding is usually done on PC, you may be able to downgrade the version, but it's more work.
I describe it to people I know as:
- Fallout 4 is, far and away, the best "game" of the modern ones. It feels much better to play in almost every way than the other ones. Especially the combat. There's some interesting stuff in it, but it's largely the mechanics that keep you coming back, not the RPG or world.
- Fallout 3 has perhaps the better realized world out of them all; the way it all fits together is great and there's a lot of rewarding exploration in it.
- Fallout: New Vegas is, far and away, the best Fallout game...it harkens back to the roots way more and is the best RPG -- by a long shot -- of the 3.
Obviously YMMV and others will feel differently, but that's how I've parsed out this series so far.
Fallout4 has so much nonsense "game" in it with the way levels work. All of the modern ones are pretty bad about it ("headshot on the naked bandit! ... he's fine, he's level 30"), but FO4 was especially egregious.
Also the way it does power armor is kind of stupid. You can tell they wanted to have power armor early on for some marketing wow, but it cheapened it for me.
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I played 3 and NV on 360, both games were badly marred by being as much loading zone as they were game. Ruined the experience of snooping around for loot and side quests as opening a door back into the wasteland could take minutes. I had to stick to mostly the main quest.
4 was a far better "game" for being played on PC, but I agree NV plot was great. I just didn't want to replay and get the different endings, as the game itself was painful to play.
I should replay them on PC someday, especially if there are graphical update mods available.
People really are afraid of Fallout 1 & 2's age, it seems. But they are still the best.
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See, what they need to do is update the graphics on 1 & 2. I would definitely replay those, bugs and all. Bozar was of course OP but the way it was so story driven was excellent.
The only issue is the potato graphics.
Not only the graphic, the control is clunky and the UI is hard to navigate, it need to be remastered with QOL update to modern standard. I can look past the graphic but the control really need a lot of getting used to.
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See, what they need to do is update the graphics on 1 & 2.
So, how? You mean retain 2D isometric graphics, but do something like 32-bit color? IIRC it used an 8-bit palette.
considers
It might be possible to run it through one of those AI upscalers, get double resolution and 24-bit color.
I have no idea how well they work on things with alpha masks, though.
There are some open-source engines that can use the isometric Fallout data, I believe.
googles
I think that FIFE is the one I'm thinking of, but it looks like they headed off in the direction of being a generic RPG engine, and I don't see reference there any more to Fallout in the docs.
https://nma-fallout.com/threads/fife-open-source-rpg-engine-with-fallout-support.163087/
This sounds like this is a separate engine reimplementation from FIFE, but apparently can run Fallout 1 and Fallout 2:
https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout1-ce
https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout2-ce
I imagine that if it can't handle higher resolutions and bitdepths already, someone could push a PR to add it.
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Good, reward the company when they actually make a good thing and maybe other companies will finally start to listen.
We don't want adaptations from people who hate the source material. We want adaptations from people who love it.
It helps that it's dirt cheap right now. It's only $5 on Steam.
It's also going to get a pretty big update at the end of the month. So it's a good time to buy.
I was going to make a remark about the price of dirt, then I remembered buying non-clay soil for the garden. In retrospect, it's cheaper than dirt.
Plus how many hours of fun is that dirt going to give you? Probably not 80!
I used to love playing with dirt. Simpler times. Then they tricked me into getting an education and then a job.
I mean, there's no law saying you can't still play in the dirt.
e.g. Rednecks
But if it were in DVD format, a 40Lb bag of fallout disks would cost like around $5,517 at that rate.
I fired up fallout 1 after watching it.
Is there any mod that helps with modernising the control? I have no idea how me from 8 years ago able to chew through fo1 and 2
I wonder how it'd play on the Deck with controller inputs
I (unrelatedly) finally started playing new Vegas just a few days ago. Is the show any good?
I haven't watched it, but my understanding is they fucked up the NCR. Someone on rock-paper-shotgun described it as "Bethesda wants fallout to be kitschy mad max and nothing more", and that felt pretty apt. But again I haven't watched it so I'm just second hand griping.
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They even nailed the Fallout grotesque
It's not The Wire or The Sopranoes.
It is genuinely fun and bingeable.
The show is pretty good honestly. As a pretty big fan of the franchise I'm enjoying it compared to the dumpster fire that is Halo.
What do you mean you don't like the show where a canonically asexual character commits statutory rape?
It's surprisingly good. Two of the leads are really good. The other one gets better as the show goes on. The prop and stage design is as close to 1:1 that you can get, which is impressive.
It kinda fizzles out at the end, but the journey is a lot of fun. Definitely recommend it.
Agreed on all counts. Last episode was the weakest, in my opinion, but overall is a very good show.
Out of curiosity, which one do you think gets better?
Max. I couldn't stand him the entire first half of the season. Lucy and especially Goggins were great throughout.
Live action Mr. Handy!!!
Top points for Matt "Wolves!" Berry voicing him.
"Fatheeeeeeeeeeer!"
"Can you even imagine how weird it is to come home after a long day and hear yourself welcome you and offer you a seat in your own house?"
I was making fun of the show when I read an interview that said they created an origin for Vault Boy. But I think they actually nailed it. It makes you look at the thumbs up image in a darker way, which is perfect for Fallout. And it didn't seem shoehorned in.
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It's really freaking good somehow.
It knocked my stupid socks off... although I wasn't sure how the concept could even work