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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

In the US, people regularly don't receive the medical attention they need because they can't afford to. The European mind cannot comprehend this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

It's almost like the people of many states decided to shoot their own foot off... with no insurance.
Gee... I wonder if there's a voting pattern we could discern from this map.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Are these figures by month or year or one-time or whatever? I assume by month.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

My son is on MNSure and has no premiums or co-pays.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

As a citizen of a civilized country: What is this "medical debt" Americans keep talking about?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Kinda meaningless now, actually.

As of 2022 it no longer shows up on your credit report, and the amounts are such incredibly high make-believe numbers ($15,000 for an ER visit in which you don't even see a doctor), that the uninsured are essentially judgment-proof and those with insurance can just not pay anything past the deductible.

Honestly, if they kept the bills at like $200 it would be may more distressing for the poor. Once the debt is so high it can't be paid, it becomes meaningless. Owing several times your annual salary is no different than owing nothing at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As citizen of country that was civilized 25 years ago: I have no idea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Aren't you Russian?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's not very nice to shit-talk victims of exploitation

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For ages, the American public does obviously not want any kind of social security, because you managed not to fix this basic problem for a number of differend government periods. So we are talking about happily agreeing victims.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

A 57% majority of U.S. adults believe that the federal government should ensure all Americans have healthcare coverage.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/468401/majority-say-gov-ensure-healthcare.aspx

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Now, if they would actually vote that way...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Our system as it is set up is explicitly anti democratic and impossible to reform in any way without the buy in of the very officials who benefit from it being so. There’s no solution but revolution, and the people are so trapped in capitalist realism that many cannot perceive that any option exists other than to slowly watch as our quality of life degrades and our rights are stripped away one by one. There are a minority who are against such things as affordable healthcare, but there is literally studies done showing that regardless of popular support numbers for any given policy, there is no effect on the likelihood said policy will be implemented. Conversely, the support of the top 10% for a policy, or lack thereof, correlates directly to its likelihood of being implemented.

All that to say, this country is definitively a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Haha... I'm in Europe and have health insurance debt ...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Where I'm from

  1. You legally have to be insured and the only way to change your insurance is proving that you're insured somewhere else
  2. If you're employed, your employer pays the insurance for you, if you're unemployed the responsibility to pay is on you
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

It's how they punish us poor people for surviving instead of dying off like good little wage slaves.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I wanna see how this correlates with people who just refuse to go to a doctor because they are afraid of/hate doctors. Not likely to incur medical debt if you just never visit a doctor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Until whatever minor problems you have boil over into a health emergency and then, blammo! Deferred treatment of healthcare is a massive source of health related costs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

But that requires someone who cares about you.

You can always just... Die alone. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I mean, that's like eight people. Pretty easy for one guy with lousy insurance to throw off the results.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I live in Minnesota and I have health insurance through my employer and I do not qualify for this program. It costs me over $200 just to walk in the door of the clinic. I recently had to get a CT scan and it cost me $1800. A fucking covid test cost $135, even though the state will mail them to me for free.

I don't make that much money. I can barely afford these bills. I'm a proud Minnesotan, but this post makes it seem like our healthcare is so much better than every other state, and I'm here to tell you that it most definitely is not

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Yeah, that was my experience with employer-run healthcare in general before I left to start my own business. I was paying $200 monthly for a terrible, high-copay situation like that from my last employer when I broke my knee. My friend with zero insurance had the same injury so I went to his doctor and surgeon. Afterwords we compared our total bills and mine was barely any less than his cash-only bill. I felt robbed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Would it make you feel better to know those with insurance often also pay a lot of money?

Does it make you feel better or worse to say that your employer is terrible?

Do you see any difference between you having a shitty employer and your state protecting citizens from the worst you have suffered?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

So the bar was under the ground and it seems that Minnesota raised the bar to about 2 inches above ground. Not great, but better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

This is more a problem with your employers health insurance. Yes Minnesota healthcare is not perfect but if you're very low income, it's better than other states. MNsure certainly helped me a bit and provided free healthcare for awhile.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Turns out "better health care" is a pretty low bar in the US.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I'm not from USSA, but looking from afar it seems to be in its own 2x2x1.5.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pretty low is an understatement. It's buried 10 feet deep.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why would anyone bury feet?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Here is the punch on you dad joke card...

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