Per the article, this looks to be limited to mobile internet and not traditional broadband. While I can understand the practicality of carving out unique bands of the wireless spectrum for specific uses, charging extra for it seems scummy.
this post was submitted on 17 Apr 2024
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Its always, no no this is for X, not Y.
(a few years pass)
They accepted X, now there is precedent, let's take Y.
This is the start, not the finish.
Fight this or it will make its way to your interests.
My $0.02.
Sure, it’s $0.02 now, but in a few years that’ll be precedent and you’ll start asking for $0.04. I’m on to your game!
I hope the EU handles that. I'm happy that I'm not in the US.
Oof, they don't have net neutrality over there eh?
Gonna be bollocks for them until they can get that brought in. There's an election coming up there right? Maybe they can vote for the party that pledges to bring in net neutrality laws, it's about time they had them considering it's 2024.
I wish them the best of luck <3
Net neutrality being brought up as an election topic would be very unusual for our politics. Our two party system is very set on the topics that they like and don't like to bring up.
Of course the parties have negative incentive to do anything more than the bare minimum about these topics that they fight so hard to advertise. Otherwise, they might need to come up with new reasons for people to vote for them.
Except that ignores how net neutrality only became a thing in the last 2 decades there’s only so many presidential admins in that period. So 5 elections vs 20 years to discuss a topic… it’s not weird that it comes up more outside of an election year. Feigning both sides/everything’s rigged bullshit is a mindless simplification.
Still, I can’t tell if you’re choosing to ignore how Obama campaigned for it or how Biden and Harris campaigned way more for it, especially concerning reversing trumps FCC decisions.
No reason to ignore the fact that Biden made it a priority in the first year or so of the admin.
Acting like it’s rigged absolves republicans of their actions: “Net Neutrality Won’t Survive a Trump Presidency” and lumps good folks in with the worst.
Net neutrality couldn’t happen while republicans block the commissioners for the job: https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/20/23800161/gigi-sohn-fcc-nomination-dark-money-campaign-net-neutrality-profile
So why not blame it on the people who are actually documented as destroying net-neutrality and advocating against it. Why instead invent some all powerful Illuminati like cabal only to end up making it a both sides thing?
Republican attacks over bs tweets are just one of the reasons we can’t have nice things. Another reason is because people like to imagine a rigged system pulling the strings to pretend there’s some order in the chaos. All it does is suck the support away from anyone trying to do the right thing.
Well said, even if you are the grossest of schnapps.
What!?
The fuck is “fast gaming”. And what games demand this?
I would guess that since it mentions teleconferencing and gaming, that they want to create low-latency fast-lanes.
But they also mention TikTok, so I am not completely sure that they are referring to latency.
This article isn't very good at explaining what they're talking about on a technical level.
Yo TikTok with a latency higher than 2 ms is completely unusable trash!
Or under 2 ms.
I have a hard time believing that since TikTok is such a popular mobile app, and 4G users are going to have a minimum of 200ms latency over-the-air.
5G does offer much faster over-the-air latency of only 1ms, but if TikTok were to become unusable if the latency between tower and server exceeds 1ms, I would expect to hear widespread complaints about that, as the vast majority of users aren't going to have <2ms latency between them and the server. Pinging TikTok.com from my 5G handset (in a major metro area) shows a latency of 80ms. Admittedly, AWS and GCP, where TikTok hosts content primarily for US users, likely has better latency. My personal experience with those platforms doesn't suggest that it would be that good- pinging the cloudfront CDN endpoints associated with my account, I get latency between 40-60ms.
Besides, video streaming shouldn't be affected by latency, only throughput. TikTok videos are just MP4 files on a CDN, as long as you can download them faster than you can play them, high latency shouldn't even be noticeable to the user, outside of initial load times for latency exceeding a few hundred ms (up to a second or so delay if establishing a fresh TCP connection, depending on the latency).
Maybe TikTok Live could be an issue, but its a one-way channel so a delay shouldn't be noticeable like it would be with a 2-way teleconference. Maybe if there was high jitter or packet loss, the stream could have extremely low quality.
If you read my comment again you might realize it's a joke about TikTok being trash.
Reading trough all the marketing terms used. I’m more afraid of selective slowing down connections instead of the mentioned “speeding up” connections.
Yeah they won't speed up shit, that requires investment in infrastructure. They'll just slow down all existing lanes by 40%, blame it on something unrelated, and then charge you 2.5x as much as you used to pay to get your original speeds back.
Don't do that. Don't read through them. Let that shit be.
Also don't help your "non-tech-savvy" relatives and friends with crap you've told them before you don't use. They think it's fine and normal until they are left alone to deal with it. "But how will I use Facebook?.. I dunno, don't use it myself, can't help you".
The reason crap is popular is also because we the relatively savvy people have conditioned normies to think that they choose what to use and we'll just help them with everything, but the authority who tells what's good and what isn't is not us, it's Google and Apple and other shitmakers.
No free IT help without representation, I say. Which means that I'll help them if they suddenly want to become Linux users. Or something else I can respect. But not with things I've never advised them to use in the first place, quite the contrary. I'm for adult usage of the Web, with normies accepting responsibility for their own choices.
EDIT: This butthurt comment meant that we shouldn't wait for normies to abandon all that. Leading by example. Like with ICQ being abandoned in favor of Skype. Network effect isn't real (... anymore with enshittification negating it fully), it can't hurt you.
EDIT2: And I know it's offtopic.
I agree with you, I usually tell relatives to call their isp and scream at them. It's usually stuff I could probably help with but if the isp gets more hell they might change for the better.
Low latency matters a lot more than bandwidth in any game that isn't turn based.
Fuck these pricks.
The network can handle everyone currently on it yet they cry like it's causing them issues.
Fucking liars.
The issue is there are profits left on the table! Unacceptable!
When it's mafia it's extortion, when it's ISPs it's just "good business practices."
They might not be able to easily, but that's 100% on them for spending their obscene profits on yet another nesting yacht rather than upgrading their infrastructure to actually keep pace with demand
It's yachts, all the way down
enshittification.
my theory is that they are pushing for more expensive upgrades like fiber.
Charter has/had a dark fiber ring ready for use back in 2005. I assume most other cable providers have similar, because they had to build it out after the first FCC spending bill after 99
“Why should we upgrade our tech when we can just artificially reduce capacity and charge more for priority access?”
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