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Vanguard on Linux (lemmy.one)
submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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This is League Of Legends running with wine on fedora. I thought Vanguard will only run on windows?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What's wild, is they released a lengthy post on their anti-cheat this month. At one point they mention that current vanguard has been bypassed/defeated...a bunch of lazy clowns.

It also shows LoL's old anti-cheat, you'd get cheaters/scripters/bots anywhere from 1 in 15 games, to 1 in 5, depending on your region. The higher your rank, the more you'd run into cheaters, too, by a lot. Riot games is just a cesspool of free 2 play trash that breeds the most toxic of people.

In a YouTube video I watched last year, a group came up with an extremely good A.I. powered anti-cheat. The kicker is this, they couldn't sell it to a single major studio, because said studios implied that their player count would suffer way too much.

None of these studio's give a single fuck about competitive integrity. Just stfu, keep playing 100s of matches in an obviously broken rank/match making system to slightly rank up, and give us $.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

The toxicity is awful. I tried to learn once since I had a buddy that loved the game and I was looking for a game to dump some hours in. This was about 10 years ago or so. My buddy told me he would help teach me the game so I could at least understand what people were saying. It took him one game to start trashing my playing. I fucked off of that game and never played again.

I do not understand how anyone continues to stay in a toxic fanbase even if they really love the game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not the video you talked about , but I felt like its related to your last paragraph : How League of Legends Uses Abuse to Keep You Playing | That Jess . While she focuses more on other pieces of moderation than anticheat , she shows how LoLs developers are incentivized to not give a fuck and that they do , in fact , not give a fuck .

You might also find The CS2 Cheater Problem Has Gotten Goofy | TheWarOwl , which talks about Valve's failures to provide integrity , even despite , though he also says its a symptom of these failures , third party anticheat systems .

I'll also add that AI anticheat is not a silver bullet , it also requires upkeep which can be more expensive than classical anticheat systems .

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

How League of Legends Uses Abuse to Keep You Playing | That Jess

The CS2 Cheater Problem Has Gotten Goofy | TheWarOwl

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/RwzIq04vd0M?si=FSX_j0yikfaC6FuV

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Kernel level anti-cheat should be a crime

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago

Kernel level surveillance, drivers are not supposed to be use this way.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

The compatibility checker has verified that your system is in fact, a system. You have successfully failed at being unbanned, congratulations!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

It's just a check, doesn't actually try to load it

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

Same for me, but don't get your hopes up. Riot just fucked up the code doing the check, but let's just trust them that their permanently running kernel driver has no security flaws.

[–] [email protected] 152 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Even if it did work, why would you do it? You'd still be playing League of Legends.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I played the game for years over decade ago. It was fun with friends, but ultimately turned to absolute cesspool over years. Don't get me wrong, toxicity was always there (as with every other online game), but it ranked up every year. Year after year. Until I finally gave up and never really looed back, because of how toxic and miserable I felt in game. Can't even imagine it nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

Spoken like a true League of Legends player

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It does only run on Windows. This compatibility checker isn’t working correctly and is most likely detecting Wine as Windows 10 for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Isn't Vanguard requiring secure-boot and TPM enabled?

That check is actually worthless and wouldn't succeed otherwise, or are they not require it on Windows 10

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Secure boot and TPM are only needed for vanguard if you're on W11. On 10 there are no prerequisites.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think it needs TPM if you have some virtualization settings on even on windows 10.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

wait really? if so many league players on windows would get the boot too, most people i know who play it do so because their potato computers are old.

that would be hilarious

[–] [email protected] 85 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  1. A bug
  2. You’ll get banned
  3. They just announced it and didn’t implement it for you specifically . AB testing or something

One of those probably

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago
  1. They check the Windows version or whatever and the one reported by wine is compatible. It won't actually work since it's not actually running that version of Windows.
[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Lol, ban me and I’ll finally have an excuse. Brb logging into league of linux