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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

2.875 here, my monthly payment is $545. I want to move, but it would be financially stupid to do so

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Basically, unless the sale gets you enough to buy the next house in cash, it's a bad idea, lol.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bought my house just before the crash in 2007. Felt screwed over as I went underwater and was stuck with my 6.5% loan while interest rates and home values plummeted (and because my mortgage was privately held, no HARP refi option.

Finally after nearly 15 years not only go out from under water but built enough equity for a no cost refinance. Got into a 2.25% loan.

Sad part is, despite the lower rate, due to skyrocketing insurance and taxes, my payment is no cheaper

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

2.75% here. Yeah... I don't like where I live but I ain't moving unless I have to

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

3.6 here (bought 22) and not fucking moving until rates are at least below 4 again. If that means I don’t ever move again then so be it

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If that means I don’t ever love again then so be it

Either this is a typo or very dramatic lol.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

7-8% rates are bad by recent standards but not awful by historical standards. Depending on where I move and how much house I can get, I'd be willing to give up my 2.9% rate for something in that range.

There are a few other factors to consider right now, anyway. I'm a Houston resident, and this is supposed to be a particularly bad hurricane season along with a historic heat wave. My wife is terrified of the state's newest right wing legislative push, as well. Michigan, Minnesota, and Washington is looking better and better as Texas brains are poisoned by MAGA media. And, despite having a gangbusters growth, my O&G employer decided to cut our bonuses from last year - so I've got one eye on the job market again. Our water bill jumped by 9% in a single year. Our interior roadways are falling apart, with no sign that the city or state plans to clean them up or improve access to public transit. HISD is being cannibalized by the governor's cronies, so I won't have anywhere to send my kids in a few years.

Would I pay an extra $500/mo to live in a state that isn't run by pedophiles, bigots, and zealots? Absolutely. Bonus points if it got me out of the concrete jungle and put me in spitting distance of some decent mass transit.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The dropping interest rate is one of the main reasons that housing prices have skyrocketed in the past 20 years. People judge housing prices by what they can afford monthly and interest rates directly impact that figure. It's only a matter of time for housing prices to fall drastically if interest rates remain at 7%.

And yes, I have a 500k loan at 2.5% on a 30yr fixed mortgage. Maybe we'll sell our house in 15 years, but otherwise, forget it! I have zero interest in paying it off early.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

When we were buying (2019), my in-laws were pushing for us to just get a starter home, and then upgrade in a few years. Both my wife and I were like "no, we're buying once and being done with." So we went a little higher than I was comfortable with.

However, our house has increased by 50% since we bought it, and we were able to refinance to 3% during the pandemic. Which was and is fantastic. But, yeah, we don't even think about moving now.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago

Had 30 yr 3.84%, refinanced in 2021 to 15 yr 1.999%. it's the cheapest money I'll ever have.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Just before the insane rises, we were remortgaging with a slight increase in borrowing for a loft conversion. In July I was kicking myself as the original rate in the March before was 1.7% as it had just increases to 3% which I wasn't happy about. A couple month later it was 7%!

[–] [email protected] 72 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I recently gave up my 3% mortgage from 2013 in exchange for a 7% mortgage. It hurts, but it was worth it to get out of Florida.

In the end, my housing costs actually didn't change that much because my home insurance rates were skyrocketing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Also home insurance isn't tax deductible (to my knowledge unless you're renting the house and then it counts against the income you made renting) but the interest paid is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That's a good point, but I'm definitely paying more taxes now than I was before. My new state has income tax and tangible property (vehicle) tax that Florida didn't have. I looked up tax distribution for my county and the majority goes into education, so I can't complain too much.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 7 months ago (2 children)

but it was worth it to get out of Florida.

You could put almost any horrific thing in front of that phrase and it sound valid.

I had to keep my arm in a tub of fire ants for 5 minutes, but it was worth it to get out of Florida.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I could not agree more. The flip side is likely true as well…

“I’d rather put my arm in a tub of fire ants for 5 minutes than move to Florida. “

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I had to cut off several limbs leading to a bad case of sepsis...

I had to sell a few children (not mine) along the way engage in some other morally questionable activities...

I had to sacrifice my first born like Abraham did his Isaac...

...but it was worth it to get out of Florida

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

It reads like a country song...

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