this post was submitted on 02 Feb 2024
626 points (98.0% liked)

Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ

54627 readers
473 users here now

⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.

Rules • Full Version

1. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy

2. Don't request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote

3. Don't request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs

4. Don't submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others



Loot, Pillage, & Plunder

📜 c/Piracy Wiki (Community Edition):


💰 Please help cover server costs.

Ko-Fi Liberapay
Ko-fi Liberapay

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Visits to music piracy websites went up more than 13 percent last year, a new report says. The majority of those visits were to sites that allow users to download the audio from YouTube URLs.

(page 4) 48 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

The only way

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I'm pretty current on technology but honestly never heard of Youtube-To-MP3 conversion.

Thinking this may be the ticket to cutting the cord with Spotify, but as others have suggested, I fully intend to buy tracks of my favorite indie folks too.

Do artists actually get a decent cut from Band Camp?

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Does somebody know a good torrent music streaming app? Something like spotify but with data from musicbrainz or anything like that and the files from torrents.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Lidarr + Plex is the one for me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Jellyfin works for me

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I already got a small server with sonarr and radarr. Is there any quick way to add up the music one?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I use Deemon for automatic music downloading from Deezer (free). Then I stream my music with Navidrome and some Subsonic compatible apps for mobile. I have this setup for over 3 years now and I have 3TB of music ;)

If you just want to download the songs you need, you can use Deemix (I use this Docker image, you can just install it as an application too)

Tip: if you don't want to setup a music server, you can use Syncthing to sync you music and playlists between devices :)

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A few notes:
Own music, do not rent.
I'm buying CDs from smaller labels directly. Cheaper than Scamazon sometimes. A couple examples: https://metalblade.indiemerch.com/collections/cds https://metalonmetalrecords.com/shop/
My library has loaned me many CDs over the years. I still have an external CD burner I can connect to my PC. Thank you, library.
Used media stores are awesome. Give them your business.

ETA: Corrected link to Metal On Metal records shop.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Downloading YouTube isn’t piracy lol it’s time shifting.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (6 children)

TiVo has entered the chat.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

shhhhhhh whatsa matta wit you

[–] [email protected] 73 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I WISH I COULD HEAR YA OVER THESE HERE BANGING TUNES! 🏴‍☠️

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (5 children)

But are they lossless 96kHz+? Only reason I use qobuz.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Flac and opus on soulseek?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Tidal? You can even download all your music in lossless flac format

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

13%!?!? WHOOOOOA!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, no wonder, they took the Northern Boys off Spotify.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

why would they do this

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

2023 was absolutely the year I dove back into music piracy. I started with downloading youtube playlists but the real game changer was soundiiz, which allowed me to import text, m3u, csv, spotify, xspf playlists into qobuz and deezer so i can download whole playlists of FLAC with qobuz-dl and deemix-gui. My collection went from 20,000 to 100,000, downloading playlists from qobuz and deezer, xspf playlists from my remaining lossy music. I used streamripper on a few web radio stations just to get a list of songs to pull down this way. I only bought music for years and years, but that got me a narrow type of collection.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Man, I never knew there was a way to download my entire spotify playlist.

That's been the biggest thing tethering me to their service, since they empty you out when you unsubscribe.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I wonder how hard it is to make full torrent webclient on mobile

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

if there was a way to get spotify with at least CD quality and the artists getting the rest of the money that spotify doesn't already take, more people would probably pay for it.

i am in a spotify family plan already, but i get that paying 12 bucks a month for 320 kbit/s and getting the artist fucked over is too much.

it's a thing of morals for many people, like with steam. steam doesn't actively fuck both the developer and the user over, they just take a 30% cut. you could argue about if that's too much, but i'm fine with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Weirdly, that's bandcamp today. Apparently they're doing a thing where everything you buy today, they will give their usual cut to the artist too.

Shame it's not all the time, but I guess bandcamp needs to pay for servers, etc.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I know this does not make me look good - but I am a YouTube Premium subscriber. I had Spotify, but they jacked up their family plan rate, and it was only a few bucks cheaper than Premium, then I got the ad-free (without adblockers). I mostly did it to help my kids avoid the toxic ads that are littered into the kid content. The main reason I stick with some of this stuff is for the discovery. Pandora was great, Spotify is ok.

Regardless - the smart playlists, and AI stuff on YouTube music is AWFUL. I cannot put into words how bad it is. Spotify got it right about 1/4-1/2 of the time. YouTube, maybe 1/100. Constantly recommending a country, which I cannot stand. When it isn't doing country, it recommends hard rock/metal which I also do not listen to. I feel like I need a new way to find music, then I could sever ties with all these trashy subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I still havent found anything can match the experience of finding music from online discussions or list hopping on RYM.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Not been my experience. Yt music playlists are really good for me and I've discovered a lot of new music through it.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I have started buying vinyl with the digital downloads when I find a great album. I feel better doing it this way. Most of my music is not super big name artists.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 120 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I never stopped but i started buying music too from small artists

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I never stopped either, but i buy vinyl..slowed down since my turntable only spins at 33.3 in special occasions when the spirits shine upon it.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's super based. Pirate whoever's stuff you want, but small artists usually depend on that income.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I listen to hundreds of small artists. I can't buy every singles albums they have.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 131 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like Bandcamp's biggest fans are prolific pirates with a conscience who just want to see their favorite artists actually get paid.

EDIT: Don't forget it's Bandcamp Friday today.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But we'll still need a proper place to support our favorite creators (where the artists actually receive some of the money). I wonder where people will migrate next.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Give me lidarr but with a smart daily generated playlist focus instead of collecting artist discographies

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What was the service you could upload your own. Playlist and songs and share with friends? Last.fm? Something like that, shit was awesome.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I want a self-hosted Pandora alternative

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Why doesn't youtube use DRM the way other Big Tech sites do?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because YouTube isn't the biggest ripping source. That award goes to Spotify.

Spotify rippers are rife these days. I've even made my own.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That isn't piracy. It's time shifting, and it's perfectly legal to do it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It is piracy if you make it available for others to download. Plus the concept of time shifting doesn't really apply to on-demand media.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

DRM sucks. We don't need more of it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

google sucks too so why aren't they using the thing that sucks?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Because it'll stop working on a not-insignificant portion of their userbases devices.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›