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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

That's good news. He's easily the best part about the first two movies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

First Green Hills, then the universe, then the multiverse, then who knows? Maybe that'll be enough.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I like the movies and he's my favorite part about them. I just wish they would keep the human family crap out of it. The human story sub plots are by far the most unnecessary parts. I rather them dig deeper into the lore of the creatures and characters. If that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I didn't mind the family subplot of the first movie.

But then they resolved it. Life was good.

You don't need to redo the same family drama for movoe 2/3/4/5 etc

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Funny that sonic-human relationships were the worst part about the 2000s era games too. That and they(the games) are so bad its actually funny.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Does that include the dark whispers I heard somewhere about sonic having a human girlfriend at some point?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I knew about the one in Sonic 2006.

Apparently he's had sort of two before that.
An initial one before the first game called "Madonna", and a sort of cat girl one in the 1990s animated movie.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

We don't talk about Sonic '06...

[–] [email protected] 98 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm surprised he'd want to come back - I'd heard really hurt his back filming the first movie and it happened again in the second one. Something about having to carrying both movies single handedly...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Tbf, the second movie was quite good, even outside of him. He had a lot of support from Knuckles, and Tails and Sonic were very fun together.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

God this makes me happy. These movies are incredibly stupid, but then again it's Sonic the hedgehog so who cares, but he was so great in them. It was just so good to see old school Jim Carrey you know?

Idris Elba is amazingly brilliant as the straight man in the last one too. Dot dot dot randomly pops into my head all the time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In general the movies were pretty good, but I couldn't help but be a little put off by Robotnik's far right wing undertones along with all the product placement.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

In stuff like this I don't give a shit about product placement honestly. When it's a movie that's just incredibly stupid dumb fun who gives a shit, you know? And then there's shit like the power rangers where I still, to this day, say the Krispy Kreme product placement was brilliant.

Because, after all, it truly is a special place.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I can't remember the Power Rangers one off the top of my head, but my go to example of good product placement, that was even integral to the storyline, was the movie Evolution. Head and Shoulders was so subtly woven into things in act 3, then right at the end all the main characters did a bit promotion, and that part had me laughing my head off.

Olive Garden was just randomly shoehorned in, not once but 3 times, with the first Sonic movie. That really broke the immersion for me and harmed my enjoyment.

Maybe not being bothered by it is more of a US thing, what with the nature of TV ads over there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I think placement can be done with intelligence, there are entire Youtube channels with millions of subscribers that do only advertisement sketches.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think integral to the storyline makes it worse.

As an example from Shazam Fury of the Gods (mild spoilers ahead). The main characters think to summon unicorns to help defeat the bad guys. Unfortunately unicorns are kinda dicks and can only be won over by ambrosia or nectar/food of the gods. So what qualifies as a GODLY FOOD? Fuckin Skittles. Oh and yes, they use the "Taste the Rainbow" slogan. Absolutely ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Generally yeah, product placement in the storyline is a bad thing, and worse than regular product placement. But Evolution was so subtle, so funny and unexpected that it somehow worked. The brand wasn't just paying to have its name mentioned throughout the movie, it was a kind of last minute, almost self-depricating presentation in a vaguely endearing way - not a certainly endearing way, but one that didn't piss you off. The characters who first promoted Head & Shoulders were literally the biggest losers of the story up to that point. The purpose of mentioning Head & Shoulders was to make fun of the seriousness of the drama and the whole premise of the movie.

Meanwhile, Olive Garden was only presented in a positive fashion in Sonic, not just by the incompetent military but also the main human character, such that you couldn't really be sure they were telling a joke by mentioning it - because they weren't, the purpose of mentioning it was purely to service the brand, at the expense of the story.

Shazam 2 is not a good example lol, except as a generally bad movie. If you're drawing parallels with Sonic and Shazam that really doesn't bode well for Sonic.

I do remember the Skittles insert into Shazam 2, but by that point the movie had really lost so much credibility that I couldn't have cared less. Meanwhile, Sonic was a generally good movie that was somewhat ruined by product placement and Carrey's alt-right lines. While he was the villain, many of his lines were never presented in such a way that you were meant to disagree with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I think for Sonic what made it "ok" aka "fuckin ridiculous" was that because it was just terrible filler, I could just ignore it. It happened to be Olive Garden but it could have just as easily been any other shitty restaurant. It was just nonsense filler.

When it's integral to the story, that's when I can't separate it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Okay actually I did forget all about that Olive garden shit that was pretty bad

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Remember reading at some point that Jim Carrey was set to “retire” after Sonic 2 had wrapped up. Maybe he just really likes the character?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Yeah, he said that after the last one, but it's hard to take anything he says seriously. Maybe he was just tired of answering questions about "what's next" or maybe he was negotiating for more money.

I think he's great in the role, and I've enjoyed both movies, so this is all good news.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Retire? In this economy?!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago