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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Nobody wanted to choose between Hilary and Trump in 2016 and look what fucking happened. Don't make the same dumbfuck mistake by not voting or voting 3rd party without enough support to ever come close to winning.

Everyone sucks; but you're not doing anything good by not choosing the least shitty option.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Nobody wanted to choose between Hilary and Trump in 2016

Party leadership wanted exactly that. They got their second choice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

ITT: angry centrists who would rather lose and have someone to blame than admit that politicians need to appeal to voters.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago

How about we just all admit the government is bad and burn it all to the ground?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I don't know where USA Today found these people.

Kristian Mansel, 23 said she's willing to see a Trump victory if it means Biden and Democratic Party learn a lesson. She's mad Biden and Democrats have failed to protect reproductive rights or wipe out student loans.

"It's just there's too many strikes against him and the Democratic Party at this point in general," said Mansel, a University of Memphis student who considers herself liberal.

Has she paid any attention at all to what each party is trying to do?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know where USA Today found these people.

Same place as the Bernie Bros who voted for Trump instead of Hilary Clinton, giving the USA 3 more conservative Supreme Court Justices.

You know, to stick it to the Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If Democrats want their votes, Democrats need to change. Democrats would rather lose.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If Bernie can't beat Hillary Clinton in 2016 primaries when only leftists+moderates are voting, why the fuck would he win in the general election when we start including right and far-rifght people in America?

The fact is, the Democratic Party primaries are the best for a far-left person like Bernie. (Much like how far-right candidates have the biggest advantage during Republican primaries). If you can't move the votes in the primary, its impossible to win during the general election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If progressives are so insignificant that the party can ignore them, you don't get to blame them for Clinton's loss. She was so useless as a candidate that she had to be carried across the line in the primaries by a party that argued in court that their primaries didn't need to be honest, and then forgot that she wasn't still being carried in the general.

Democrats would rather lose than debase themselves by appealing to the progressives they hold in utter contempt.

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