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I'll save North Americans a click: they're not available here.
I respect what they are trying to do here. I just replaced the batteries in my Sony WF-1000XM4 earbuds... it was not a trivial process.
Fuck Sony overpriced crap. I'm still salty with their v2 update that damaged the battery.
Glad there's a pair of wireless earbuds with replaceable batteries now, but it's pretty obvious that they only removed the headphone jack on their phone so they could sell more of these. i don't want to encourage scummy business practices like this from fairphone of all businesses, especially when all it does is worsen the user experience and create more waste.
Edit for clarity
Edit 2: am i actually in the wrong here? People seem to disagree with me pretty strongly.
Edit 3: it seems like my comments here aren't showing up in other instances. Something weird going on.
You're not wrong, lots of people on Lemmy.world just really kiss up to fairphone because of their perceived betterness in other ways. Just because they claim to be doing some things better doesn't mean they aren't doing anything wrong or scummy.
Also I bet there's quite a few apple fanboys here who support copying apple in removing features, for some strange reason.
Alright, i thought i was going crazy for a minute there.
itβs pretty obvious that they only removed the headphone jack on their phone so they could sell more of these
Why is anytime when anything by Fairphone is posted, everyone acts as if they were the first and only company who did that sort of thing? They'd keep the jack and sell wired headphones if that was such a massive business.
Because the entire point of fairphone is to not do those sorts of things. I'd rather not see them go the way of enthusiast phones and use greenwashing to get them popular so they can turn around and be another unethical smartphone giant. It's worthwhile to call them out on stuff like this.
Because the entire point of fairphone is to not do those sorts of things.
That's not their point, as their website makes pretty damn clear. They state their goals openly, and pretty clearly.
Because the entire point of fairphone is to not do those sorts of things.
And there I am thinking the point of Fairphone was to not waste resources manufacturing components that only few people even want.
Maybe it's both. How come your okay with them making people throw away their perfectly good headphones?
Why would I throw away my perfectly good bluetooth headphones just because a phone removes the audio jack? π€
Why would I throw away my perfectly good wired headphones because a phone removes the audio jack?
(The dongles sound measurably better than 90% of the headphones jacks on phones).
Or maybe not making everybody throw away their perfectly good headphones?
"everyone"? That's a very bold claim. I would assume they did market research and concluded that putting more components in all of their phones is more wasteful than manufacturing a limited number of USB-C adapters for those who actually want it. Again: They'd sell wired headphones if the demand was that high.
Framework Computers also relegated the headphone jack to a USB-C adapter. There is clearly a wider shift in the industry.
I dunno, people seem to have a real hard-on for pissing over Fairphone, in a totally weird way. And this travelled over from Reddit. And I know the majority of /r/android has long been Samsung fanbois, but sometimes it gets ridiculous. π
Back to the actual topic at hand, wow they're chunkers. Ouff. Since I have a comparatively small head these would look pretty weird on me I imagine. But OTOH, damn is it impressive to build earbuds - a device usually filled with glue - with a user-replaceable battery. I kinda want to support them assuming I need new headphones any time soon.
I dunno, people seem to have a real hard-on for pissing over Fairphone, in a totally weird way.
I hope these people don't find out that the Framework 16 notebook got rid of an on-board headphone jack and moved to a USB-C adapter as well. There might be riots.
And I know the majority of /r/android has long been Samsung fanbois, but sometimes it gets ridiculous. π
Fuck, I have a Samsung phone (from work, not actually mine but private use permitted) and Fairbuds XL. I use products from both companies on a daily basis. Which camp to I have to join now?
I hope these people donβt find out that the Framework 16 notebook got rid of an on-board headphone jack and moved to a USB-C adapter as well. There might be riots.
Can't you still buy a headphone jack, though? Which to me is actually cool. Consistency, the more modular the better.
Fuck, I have a Samsung phone (from work, not actually mine but private use permitted) and Fairbuds XL. I use products from both companies on a daily basis. Which camp to I have to join now?
Ah, I'm sorry to inform you but the company shill police is on their way. You will be re-indoctrinated, probably for Apple.
Canβt you still buy a headphone jack, though?
Yes, it's a USB-C adapter: https://frame.work/products/audio-expansion-card Due its form factor it's basically unusable for other devices, though (it could put strain on the USB port).
It costs twice as much as Fairphone's own USB-C adapter: https://shop.fairphone.com/shop/usb-c-to-mini-audio-jack-adapter-3-5mm-18
You will be re-indoctrinated, probably for Apple.
I already have Apple's USB-C headphone jack adapter. I feel even more confused now.
The price tag is pretty important.
For my fellow maple syrup gatherers, it's $219.12 Canadian.
All three of them
Lol, it's funny how a product like this will likely get a solid 4 star rating, meanwhile I'll find another that is better, has better reviews, and costs easily a quarter of this
meanwhile Iβll find another that is better, has better reviews, and costs easily a quarter of this
Yeah, duh. It's fair as in "fair trade", not fair as in "I think it's fair that child labor in poor countries made my cheapo headphones".
I was pretty pissed about having my $400 earbuds die after a couple of years. If these things last for six or eight, I'd be happy.
You know what didn't die yet? My 8 year old earbuds that have a wire and plugs into the jack. And guess what, I don't even have to charge them or worry about losing one of them.
Fuck wireless headphones.
Especially with the growing trend to use wireless headphones to push people to buy new headphones when they don't need them. It does nothing but create waste and lose us money.
seriously. like I totally get why someone would want them, but to not have the option to use wired too? come on.
Availability is also pretty important. But you have to go through most of the checkout process before you find out it's only available in Europe.