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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am on board for this.

Patent it and no one else can do it.

Then if you do get or have a Roku TV, just don't add the wifi to your TV. (I know this won't work for the sticks, but for the cheap TV, just don't add that to the wifi)

I know that defeats the point of a smart TV but its a lot cheaper than other screens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Companies can use it without much trouble. They just need to licence it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

True. Good point.

I was thinking more along the lines that most companies won’t license something unless they absolutely have to. I should have said not ALL the other company’s will do it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

1 step closer to "Drink Verification Can" becoming a reality

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I'm really hoping they patent this and lock it away so no one can do it...

I ain't holding my breath though

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

No Roku products. Gotcha.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Isn't there a Black Mirror episode of this

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

So, any recs. on good dumb tvs?

I'm upgrading to a projector soon, but also would love a few screens with actual buttons on the device incase of the inevitable remote loss.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Haven't bought a TV in 12 years, out of curiosity - if you're not using the smart features of the TV would not connecting it to the network not be the best solution?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

For my current use, (mostly screen sharing) I think it has to be connected.

Also, I think most smart tvs require regular updates or they "won't work".

It's worth a shot though, I'll have to look into it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"dumb TV" is really just a commercial display. Usually the image isn't as good as a consumer display unless you really want to spend some money. For a decent display that won't wreck your bank account take a look at NEC displays. I have some in the field that are over 10 years old and used daily. Some even have compute modules you can add if you want your PC built into the display.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

All I found in a cursory search were commercial displays. But I'll keep looking.

I've got a 30"? VISIO that's over 13 years old and doing just fine. I'd love to get another something of that quality; planned obsolescence sucks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm personally thinking of just plugging a decently capable little media PC into the display, using KDE's "big screen" interface with KDE Connect as a remote. I'm pretty sure I could train my family on that...

Roku is so scummy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This is my thought:

Good enough laptops are about $200, and Linux is free.

Then there are fairly good projectors for like $80 or less that have hdmi, av, rgb, etc. with an led bulb.

So, grand total about $300 for a massive screen and zero ads.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Then there are fairly good projectors for like $80 or less

Um. You and I have a very different idea of "fairly good". The only good projector I've used (at work, not my own) cost $12,000. It's overkill for a home theatre, but not by a wide margin.

If you want a projector as bright as a TV you could buy for 20 bucks at a goodwill store, you need to spend quite a bit of money on it... especially if you also want decent black levels and of course significantly larger than a cheap LCD (otherwise why get a projector).

You also forgot sound. Good speakers aren't cheap either. And you definitely don't want the sound coming from the projector itself. Or from your laptop speakers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Unless you're trying to achieve 4K on a projector, you definitely don't need a $12k model.

Similarly, sound is dependent on the user. I've used many projectors that had decent speakers. Yes, speakers can be expensive, but not outlandish unless you're going for an audiophile set, but then you're going to drop money either way because most TVs don't have movie theatre level speakers.

I'm just interested in having a big enough picture without paying a fortune or having unskippable ads while I play Horizon: Forbidden West.

An $80 projector works just fine for me.

I'm not trying to build a theatre or anything here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is like really horrific but if I'm being honest, it's not going to happen. I think LG did a patent where you had to shout the brand being displayed on ads to skip an ad— and they never did that. This is probably a good thing so that other companies can't use it for a few hundred years

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

It was Sony, which really surprised me. This definitely sounds like an LG thing.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sony-patent-mcdonalds/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's a big difference though. Making people yell is not the same as an ad being shown similar to a screen saver. Hard to believe but most people will just not care and those who do won't care enough to do much about it. There's a reason ads have become to main stream and normal they're yielding results the companies want.

A great example of how the mass majority of people not caring is look at the reaction to password sharing. Sure many people made a stink yet every single on of the platforms saw growth.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Roku was such an easy recommendation for a long time... Non-complex UI, long support for updates, not owned by google or amazon... Far cheaper than LG and Samsung... (Not that Samsung's UI is anywhere near as easy as roku)

But now I guess thats done. Unless an alternate firmware exists or this doesn't hit older TVs I guess I'll be looking for a new TV... Which is a shame because my current 4 year old roku TV is more than capable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just disconnect your TV ftom the internet right now

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Right, and then not watch YouTube or Netflix or anything on my.... TV... Good plan!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I’ve had my Roku disconnected from the Internet for a while now. I used to use an Amazon Fire stick, and currently use a Google chromecast

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

If only there was a way to provide a video stream to the TV without the internet! We'd be saved!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Man, am I happy that I stopped using my Roku and switched to an Nvidia Shield TV. I'm also happy that I have a "dumb TV"!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago

Roku just invented a way for me to never ever give them any of my money.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is burying the lead. It's not just about showing ads. It is tracking everything you on your TV, whether or not it a roku service

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lede has a very specific meaning and is seldom used outside of journalism, lead is perfectly acceptable in common vernacular

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and this was that very specific meaning and was used in the context of journalism.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago

Language is meant to convey meaning. You clearly understood the meaning, so the language succeeded.

https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2019/lead-vs-lede-roy-peter-clark-has-the-definitive-answer-at-last/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Oh, I'm stupid

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lmao they already do that. That's not new. They've been snooping on your signals for a while. My parent's TV sometimes shows a pop-up after watching certain things on antenna/satellite

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Wtf that's got to be illegal??

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