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[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago

Scrapped my plans to buy a Tesla a while ago!

[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They can't make a good car at triple the price. Why would anyone buy this one?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Personally I was shopping Tesla Model Y vs Chevy Blazer. At a glance, this seems to fall right in with what you’re saying but the reality was very different.

  • Tesla started off with an advantage by actually being available
  • even when Blazer was released, as a new model, it had much worse quality issues, very little availability, and huge markups
  • Tesla was a mature model, with no quality issues
  • Tesla was much less expensive
  • Tesla was rated 100 miles more range
  • Tesla is much more efficient
  • Tesla has an outstanding charging network
  • Tesla has a much easier purchasing process, with fewer middlemen to scam profits
  • Tesla software and automation is on a whole different level

The decision really wasn’t close

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Regarding the sales process: in Tesla's early days, they received an exception to the requirement for needing to use dealerships. Generally this is very shady and is outright unfair towards other car manufacturers—even Rivian didn't get this same special treatment because lawmakers saw how Tesla abused it.

Tesla's growing monopoly on charging networks isn't something to be proud of, in my opinion, and neither is their proprietary charging cable. We need open standards.

Also, Tesla's mileage estimates are notoriously exaggerated. Perhaps technically you can get the claimed range if the entire trip is downhill…

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Hey, I'm happy you're happy. But Tesla absolutely still has quality control issues.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t think that’s how Tesla owners feel. 🤔 I think most are pretty happy. (Me included)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully yours doesn't have body panel gaps you can see from part way across the parking lot. A couple doctors at the surgery center I was at had Teslas, and one of them was pretty unhappy with the build quality on the one he got.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nah, it's coming right after the 2020 roadster

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We just got the 2019 cyber truck, so we’re only a decade or so away from the roadster.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that put us a year away? Just checking your math...

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And we'll get the 2017 robotaxi in August!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I can’t speak to whether this is true, but Musk did later that day announce that the Robotaxi release will be August 8th, which he’s always said is going to be on the same platform. I don’t see why they wouldn’t also make the “model 2” once they are to scale since not all people want to use / will trust robotaxi at first. But any announcements they make on this car before they can actually deliver will take sales away from their models available now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Right, everyone needs to chill out and realize this is all rumor. You shouldn’t trust any of it too much.

  • Musk is probably saying what they do intend to do, whether they can do it on time or not, or risk another visit from SEC
  • cancelling model 2 is a rumor from unknown source that may or may not be true
  • even if it’s true, it may mean cancelling a specific project but doesn’t mean the goal has changed
  • even if it’s true, it may mean focussing on robotaxi first, and not necessarily change overall goals
  • even if it’s true and they realized they can’t compete in that segment profitably, there may be an alternate or changed plan we don’t know about yet

Right now it’s almost more entertainment value than actually what will happen, so let’s all sit around and gossip, but not expect it to mean much.

Here’s my contribution to the rumor mill: given the cost of FSD added to existing vehicles, a robotaxi would be more expensive and higher profit. Of course they’d want to do that first. It also fits with the Tesla long term strategy of starting with high cost vehicles first, to help fund mass market vehicles later, and over-optimistic technology ambitions. You heard it here first, absolutely guaranteed to be true by this random internet user, and with no basis in reality, the plan is to use robotaxi to pay for the development and factory for Model 2

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Autonomous driving has always been his go-to pump when the stock price drops.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Musk says a lot of things that aren't true

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

8/8 for all his Nazi followers.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They can't figure out what quality assurance checks they can cut further?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

The model is delayed because they haven't finished replacing the steering wheel with a touch screen.

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